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Old Jun 7th, 2019, 08:21 AM   #81
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... Apple really has skipped over a wide variety of pro users making a machine that financially would not make sense as it would take a long time to get your return on a machine like that. This is another example of how Apple leadership is out of touch in my opinion. People wanted a pro machine, Apple did that, but made an extreme pro machine priced for a small market of large studios. ...
Wah, wah, wah. In the current lineup, there are Minis that go up to 6 cores and iMac Pros that go up to 18 cores. WTF more do you want?

The new Mac Pro is firmly aimed at the workstation market. Yes, Virginia, there is a class of devices more powerful than "personal computers". They are a lot more varied than just the audio and video you mentioned. Take, say, any field of scientific computing. Crunching massive data sets or modelling complex systems. You may not be enamoured of it but another industry is electronic stock and bond trading also relies on ultra high performance analysis. Engineering design and analysis. A couple of new Pros would make a kick-ass build server for a large development team. And so on.

Are they expensive. Damm straight. You have to be this tall to play. You, apparently, are not. I'm certainly not. From what I've read, though, the new Pro compares well to similarly equipped machines from Dell, etc.

BTW, they briefly mentioned that there is going to be a rack-mount version of the Mac Pro. I would give odds that they will sell more units of the rack mounts than the new cheese grater.

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Wah, wah, wah. In the current lineup, there are Minis that go up to 6 cores and iMac Pros that go up to 18 cores. WTF more do you want?

The new Mac Pro is firmly aimed at the workstation market. Yes, Virginia, there is a class of devices more powerful than "personal computers". They are a lot more varied than just the audio and video you mentioned. Take, say, any field of scientific computing. Crunching massive data sets or modelling complex systems. You may not be enamoured of it but another industry is electronic stock and bond trading also relies on ultra high performance analysis. Engineering design and analysis. A couple of new Pros would make a kick-ass build server for a large development team. And so on.

Are they expensive. Damm straight. You have to be this tall to play. You, apparently, are not. I'm certainly not. From what I've read, though, the new Pro compares well to similarly equipped machines from Dell, etc.

BTW, they briefly mentioned that there is going to be a rack-mount version of the Mac Pro. I would give odds that they will sell more units of the rack mounts than the new cheese grater.

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I have mentioned what I would want and many other pros would want. A tower mac with no screen, more power in both CPU and GPU then a Mac Mini has with EASY and affordable non-proprietary internal hard drive bays, SSD size would be fine.

I am not questioning how it compares to other extremely high end machines, according to Apple there Apple display is incredibly well priced, but again that is for a tiny portion of the pro market.
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Are they expensive. Damm straight. You have to be this tall to play. You, apparently, are not. I'm certainly not. From what I've read, though, the new Pro compares well to similarly equipped machines from Dell, etc.

BTW, they briefly mentioned that there is going to be a rack-mount version of the Mac Pro. I would give odds that they will sell more units of the rack mounts than the new cheese grater.

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Was talking this very thing the other day... I wonder if this is them dipping their toes backing to the "server" class pool without full committal of calling it an Xserve again (and ostracizing the desktop "pros").

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Was talking this very thing the other day... I wonder if this is them dipping their toes backing to the "server" class pool without full committal of calling it an Xserve again (and ostracizing the desktop "pros").

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They definitely made a note of it and there is a rack mount version of the Mac Pro they briefly showed.
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