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Old Jun 4th, 2019, 11:44 AM   #61
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I don't think the HDs will be proprietary for long. Seems Apple is adopting a new tech which will be available from others soon.

They are just leading the pack again. We are at a point where many things/components are changing. If HDs become small but with huge storage, then desktop clutter will be less. Ram seems to be the last of the "big components" left to change.

The dust will settle in a few years but we have to ride out the storm till then. (think floppy disks or CD drives)

A cheaper Mac Pro exists in the imac Pro but I feel they will release a less powerful desktop next year like they did with the iphone.

It is good news Apple is listening but their timing and product release schedule still needs work. Hopefully they will avoid the mess of the 90's with too many products in their line up.

Lastly, on the USA site it looks like the processor is removable/upgradable. Screws hold a wire which clamps the processor to the board. Interesting if this is true.

Maybe, first I have seen this technology, looks like Apple proprietary tech to me but I could be wrong.

Can you buy those SSD drives from anywhere but Apple?

Not everyone wants an iMac as it is limited in upgradeability and certainly not easy to work on like a tower should be.

It did look to me like the processor is replaceable, the question will be what will be supported? What chipset are they using?

A moderately priced, upgradeable, easy to work on, tower mac is what a lot of people would like. Not every pro user is in the market for/or can afford an $8000 computer. If it was $5000 CDN it would be something I would be interested in, I paid a little more then that for my 5K iMac. $8000 for a computer with only 256 gigs of hard drive space is not the best solution for many pro users, though we all wish we could have one of those beasts hidden under our desks.... would want that one out of sight.
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Old Jun 4th, 2019, 12:16 PM   #62
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Maybe, first I have seen this technology, looks like Apple proprietary tech to me but I could be wrong.

Can you buy those SSD drives from anywhere but Apple?
I would bet within weeks or a month of the release OWC or somewhere like that will have a caddy you can put your own SSD into with an interface to the new port.

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Old Jun 4th, 2019, 12:51 PM   #63
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Finally hit the point where I will allow a hackintosh builder to create a super fast computer inside a nice 2012 aluminum case.
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I would bet within weeks or a month of the release OWC or somewhere like that will have a caddy you can put your own SSD into with an interface to the new port.

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at what price though? You can get a 1 TB SSD (standard universal SSD) for around $150. Apple's prices for there SSD drives when building a Mac is 3 or 4x as much. Seems to be steady at that price tag for the last few years, no dipping or normalizing.

I like the idea of smaller drives, if they are stable and long lasting, but at that increased price I would take more storage at a fraction of the cost with a still fast SSD.
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I would bet within weeks or a month of the release OWC or somewhere like that will have a caddy you can put your own SSD into with an interface to the new port.

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+1!! Quite likely, unless Apple has some other crazy proprietary restriction.


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+1!! Quite likely, unless Apple has some other crazy proprietary restriction.


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I have no doubt it will be done, OWC did it for the MacBook Pros. Problem is again the price. Prices are still high for these. For 1 TB for the MacBook Pro the price is $530 + taxes still. Is there some huge improvement with Apples version over a standard SSD? I have a 1 TB ssd in my iMac. On my home PC that I play around with doing nerd things I have a 128 gig SSD. There is noticeable speed difference, if anything the Windows 10 PC boots up faster then my maxed out 5K iMac. I think that is a software thing though. What are we gaining with Apples much more expensive SSD over the much cheaper and universal SSD drive?
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A note on these incredibly expensive SSDs:

https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-pro...s-and-upgrades
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Only time will tell. I hope this means cheaper trash can Mac Pros but I doubt it.
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Old Jun 4th, 2019, 09:02 PM   #69
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It seems to me, and from what I read, that even if Apple is calling their latest Mac "Pro" model a Pro model, it won't truely be one for many Mac "Pro" users until Apple's chiefs can get rid of their bigoted opinions sorted out and accept and help support some high-end graphics hardware such as those from Nvidia etc. and the various GPUs.

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Just a thought: why not try an EGPU on a Thunderbolt 3 capable Mac such as the 2018 Mac Mini?
GPU of your own choice with it.

Not cheap, but a lot cheaper than this ridiculously priced new Mac Pro.

The money you spare with that will probably get you a nice Eizo or so monitor as well...
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