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Old Apr 2nd, 2019, 04:43 PM   #1
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Incompatible Media - future OSX

I just read today about changes Apple is making in future (after Mojave) OS X which will render some video files incompatible - i.e. will not open/run/view. Certain codecs will be removed.

I have over 1,700 videos in my iTunes collection and I'm hoping I don't have to transcode them (MP4 I think is OK)

Anyway, members here who have various video that they wish to keep in future might want to look into the situation now, as you will not be able to transcode them with OSX beyond Mojave.

Details here:
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT209029
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Old Apr 2nd, 2019, 10:54 PM   #2
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I have over 1,700 videos in my iTunes collection and I'm hoping I don't have to transcode them (MP4 I think is OK)

There's sure no law saying you have to follow Apple's "upgrade" route and you can just stay where you are with everything working and as it is and was.

PS and BTW: What are the advantages of upgrading one's macOS to some other new version???

Personally, I haven't seen too many really useful new "features" with their recent OS X versions, but I've sure seen lots of them disappear trough various "upgrades". The name in itself is an oxymoron I'd say.



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OldeBullDust's link referred to iMovie.... here's the Final Cut Pro support document on the issue.
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Old Apr 3rd, 2019, 06:30 AM   #4
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upgrades are optional for sure.
A lot of people think they must keep current. Security is probably the chief reason.

some upgrades do enhance performance on certain machines, extending the life of old computers.

as stated elsewhere, I believe Apple is targeting the youth now more than ever. this leaves long time users/pro users scratching their heads.
I find the newer imacs to be more powerful than my old cheese grater, less upgradeable/fixable unfortunately.

gone are the days of the user upgradable parts.

so, upgrades are important to some for the bells and whistles/ some for security/ some because some software runs better on it. (iOS is notorious for this)
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I find the newer imacs to be more powerful than my old cheese grater, less upgradeable/fixable unfortunately.

gone are the days of the user upgradable parts.
To be fair, iMacs were never super user serviceable, though they certainly are less so now than before. But they were never in the same ballpark as Mac Pros.

Personally, I don't care how dumbed down they make the Macbook line, nor the iMac line. But it would be nice of them to reverse course on the Pro lines. Make them thicker, user upgradable and useful. My 2 cents:

- Merge the current Air and Macbook lines leaving only Macbook Air. Keep them tiny for their target market.
- Make the current pro line the 'Macbook' line. Dumb them down if needed to meet the price point.
- (re)introduce a Macbook pro line that is thick enough to allow for USB3 ports, user upgrades etc.

I think that would be a nice nod to the old guard and pro users.
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I went from updating as soon as a new Mac OS was released to sitting around and waiting and not really caring about updating my OS. Apple is not doing anything that makes me want the supposed new features they have added.

I could see Apple eventually getting rid of their music store altogether and just rely on iTunes Music subscription. I wonder how many people are actually still buying music with all the services out there.

As for movies, I have bought a few from iTunes, the convince and the 4K do make it appealing. Price can be decent if they are not new releases. I just bought the Batman trilogy with Christian Bale from iTunes, 3 movies in 4K for $20. I thought that was a bargain.

As said you do not need to update your OS, if it works and there are no big benefits that would really improve your life I would say stick with it till you find a solution that works for all your movies. I always demo a new MacOS in a virtual machine and try out everything that is important to me first. This has saved a lot of headaches and allows me to also try and find solutions without the panic of it being my main computer not working how it should.
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I went from updating as soon as a new Mac OS was released to sitting around and waiting and not really caring about updating my OS. Apple is not doing anything that makes me want the supposed new features they have added.
When my late-2014 MacBook Pro died recently, a colleague who had just purchased a new MacBook Air Retina (2018) passed on his mid-2013 MacBook Air until I could get myself a replacement.

It came with Mojave installed. With 4 gigs of RAM.

I was in the midst of a work crunch, and had no time to go through the hassle of wiping the drive, reinstalling an earlier version of macOS, etc. That was seven months ago. I'm still using it - and I have to say, I am very surprised at how Mojave runs on this machine. Certainly better than the previous OS (10.12 or 10.12).

The only time I've endured hiccups is when I had a couple of dozen Safari tabs open (and to be fair, my 2014 MBP with 10.12 hated it when I do that as well).

So in this case, the OS upgrade to the latest and greatest turned out to be a good choice - giving new oomph to an old machine. It's currently running 10.14.4 without any problems.
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So in this case, the OS upgrade to the latest and greatest turned out to be a good choice - giving new oomph to an old machine. It's currently running 10.14.4 without any problems.

THAT in my opinion is how an OS upgrade SHOULD work. Better and maybe faster, and hopefully some good new features, but it should NOT come with dropped features or complete lack of support for some major older file types and software.

But I can't even run Mojave on my mid-2011 27" iMac as apparently, it doesn't have a GPU that supports some new Metal software, and Apple doesn't provide for any GPU replacements or alternative supporting software. Not exactly impressed with that type of design or support thanks Apple.



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well, the imac is 7-8 years old. I don't know what that is in computer years... :-)

I to test the newest OS on a external HD. PS doesn't work with the latest OS so I keep an old macpro to run it if and when I need it.
Kids like messing with it as well.

I have found the OS updates have been good for my 2012 laptop. they give it a little performance boost which helps keep it from being retired.
the new features are not as important as performance boosts anymore. Gone are the heady days of OS8 to 9 and the FUBAR of 10.0.

as for music, I still buy it as I don't do data so streaming when away from home is not happening. I buy the odd movie as well, usually older ones from the 40's to the 70's era.
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When my late-2014 MacBook Pro died recently, a colleague who had just purchased a new MacBook Air Retina (2018) passed on his mid-2013 MacBook Air until I could get myself a replacement.

It came with Mojave installed. With 4 gigs of RAM.

I was in the midst of a work crunch, and had no time to go through the hassle of wiping the drive, reinstalling an earlier version of macOS, etc. That was seven months ago. I'm still using it - and I have to say, I am very surprised at how Mojave runs on this machine. Certainly better than the previous OS (10.12 or 10.12).

The only time I've endured hiccups is when I had a couple of dozen Safari tabs open (and to be fair, my 2014 MBP with 10.12 hated it when I do that as well).

So in this case, the OS upgrade to the latest and greatest turned out to be a good choice - giving new oomph to an old machine. It's currently running 10.14.4 without any problems.
It is more about features then how quickly the OS runs. As pm-r said a new OS should give you improved performance, running better and more efficiently.

Apple used to implement things that made life easier, now I dread what they have done now because they want us all to work their way and only their way. For years now Apple mail will not show the little attachment paperclip for email that is a POP account. Why? who knows, Apple themselves can give no answers with support other then reinstall. This does not work, and happens across multiple machines sharing this POP account. Sure iMAP is more modern, but for how we use this one email account in our office it would not work. Little things like this make Apple very frustrating with each and every update.
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