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Old Mar 3rd, 2016, 10:34 AM   #1
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Unhappy My 2008 MacPro is dead

At worse time ever, my good faithful 2008 MacPro has died on Monday.

After long time to boot, delay on the keyboard "Log in password", no chime and now Black screen.

I have tried everything to bring back to life. SMC reset, Pram reset and even tried to put on the Verbose mode and still refuse to boot.

Took all the accessories out, all my 6 hard drives, optical card, usb card, graphic card checked all my rams and still a no go.

For 8 years of heavy use? that machine was pretty solid. Sad to see it go.

Does anyone knows if my Rams "800 mhz" are compatible with another MacPro same year but the speed is different "667 mhz" as i gave my macpro to my dad and maybe would help him to have more rams now that my mac is fried.

Does that sound like my mother board is cooked? or is there a way to bring it back to life?

I'm getting a new Mac pro "2010" model this friday, maybe my old one could be a project unless i know for sure the motherboard is fried, i won't spend time nor money into it
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Old Mar 3rd, 2016, 11:16 AM   #2
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Before I completely gave up I would replace the little clock battery. You will need to remove the video card to slide the battery out. You need to use a little caution as you can break the battery clip.

If that seems a little vague do a google search on how to remove it safely.

I suspect a bigger issue but given the cost of a new battery, and how many older Macs have been zombified by batteries, it would be worth a try.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2016, 12:03 PM   #3
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If it powers on but does not display video, the video card may be the only issue - and can be replaced.
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Basic test, Aqua Angel: do you still get a FireWire logo on your screen in Target Mode? That is a very low level task run from ROM.
Getting the logo may indicate your mobo is fine; the videocard, however, may indeed be damaged.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2016, 10:02 PM   #5
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Changed the video card and it was still not booting properly meaning that i had still a black screen, no chime with all my pci card removed. all my hard drive removed except my SSD disk "bootable drive"
I checked the Pram Battery and it is good as i did replaced it last year and checked it again today and all is good.

All my rams "new rams" have been cleaned up and re-inserted and still a no go


"UPDATE"
Forgot to answer to your question as of the target disk mode can be done on the macpro

But here is the tricky thing. all works fantastic with the new graphic card which is "feel free to comment to this"

it is a Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost. I bought it not long ago and love it until Monday, could this be the issue? as it has several DVI port and HDMI. My main monitor is on Hdmi and the rest of them are of course on DVI port. the power cable is of course pluged in.
Could the Power supply not powerful enough to handle that card with all 3 screens on it? with 6 HDD? ESATA card and USB 2 card, soon getting a USB 3 Allegro pci and Fibre cable card for my XRaid

The mac pro finally started just fine as i tried different video card and the mac boot just fine without any issues.

I am now totally baffled as of why it ran like crap for a few days and now? all is good.....

Still getting a new mac pro anyway as i need a reliable machine. maybe this macpro will run great for a few days then BAM, will be dead sometime next week.
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It turns out it was my new Nvidia Card. i put back my old one from ATI 1gig of Vram ATI Radeon HD 5770 and i can see everything, verbose mode is back on and mac boots with no problem, unless you guys can figure a way to make that Nvidia Card to run the way it should.

Appreciate it all the help.

Update
just ran the ASD. it failed the test with a Video controller failure and smart failed.
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Hmm. Can be the PC video card.. Or stock power supply having issues. If I recall the 650 (or was it the 560?) that was power hungry. My stock psu in the 09 couldn't power my 780gtx without an external power supply.. But with my 980ti the internal one works fine. Power efficiency has improved throughout the generations..
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Hmm. Can be the PC video card.. Or stock power supply having issues. If I recall the 650 (or was it the 560?) that was power hungry. My stock psu in the 09 couldn't power my 780gtx without an external power supply.. But with my 980ti the internal one works fine. Power efficiency has improved throughout the generations..
It is a 650 Ti boost Graphic card. all seems to be working fine now with the ATI 5770 and power connected to it as it finished running the ASD and failed with 12 code of errors, will have to dig further into it andlooks like it is graphic related and hard drive related issues
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It is a 650 Ti boost Graphic card. all seems to be working fine now with the ATI 5770 and power connected to it as it finished running the ASD and failed with 12 code of errors, will have to dig further into it andlooks like it is graphic related and hard drive related issues
Glad it works and keep us posted!
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all test passed except for these.

[19:54:45] ERROR -- 60 [Video controller test failed.] -- TEST FAILED [03 Mar 2016 19:54:45] * TESTING FAILED [Elapsed time = 00:16:28] *

[21:59:52] ERROR -- 5 [No SMART attributes to check] -- TEST FAILED [03 Mar 2016 21:59:52] * 12 TEST(S) FAILED * [Elapsed time = 00:27:26]


I heard that the no smart is due on the fact that i'm using a SSD disk and not an Apple hdd and the graphic is unknown as of why i have this issue
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