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Old May 2nd, 2014, 11:47 AM   #11
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That's a Lightning port and cable. Thunderbolt cables actually can be plugged in the wrong way if you forced it.
Duh, you're right. I got the 2 technologies mixed up.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 05:41 PM   #12
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Thunderbolt is not a proprietary technology. It was developed by Intel for PCs, anyone can use it, but of course like any modern technology, Apple introduced it and pushed it.

And it's actually quite a smart and user friendly standard. You don't have to worry about plugging in cables the wrong way. I love this on my iPad.
Yes you are right, except that as developed by Intel it was called "Light Peak" and it was not developed specifically for PCs (unless you also mean Macs when you say PCs).

It was Apple that trademarked the technology as Thunderbolt, that is why I referred to it incorrectly as proprietary.

However, that being said and as you said, "Apple introduced it and pushed it."

But no, not like any modern technology... Commodore in terms of "personal" computing was every bit Apple's equal in the early days.

Just to add, in terms of "modern technology", computers/smart-phones/tablets are just one small slice of the pie. There are many others that Apple has had absolutely nothing to do with.

Also Apple has been very slow to adopt some very cost effective modern computing technology. Apple never implemented eSATA and were very late to the game when it came to USB 3.0 as they were with USB 2.0.

This far out from TBolt's implementation the uptake has been abysmal and the products are still ridiculously expensive when compared to the alternatives.

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Old May 2nd, 2014, 05:57 PM   #13
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That's a Lightning port and cable. Thunderbolt cables actually can be plugged in the wrong way if you forced it.

That being said, Thunderbolt drives are coming down in price; 1TB TB drives are averaging $200 these days; both G-Technology and Lacie make these sub-$200 Thunderbolt drives, cable included. (The G-Tech one has a 7200-rpm drive.) Of course, the SSD-laced Thunderbolt drives are still expensive, but it's the SSD making them pricey, not Thunderbolt. All Macs since 2012 have USB 3 and TB, giving the end user plenty of options in how they want to expand externally, and with good speeds using either ports. And for professionals who need maximum data throughput speed, the cost of TB2 peripherals probably isn't much of a deterrent.
I know what you are trying to say, but just to be clear and for clarification sake for those who may not know the difference, there is no such thing as a TBolt drive. There are SATA HDs and SSDs in TBolt enclosures.

Prices may be coming down but they are at glacial speed. Not to mention the cost of cables (they are so expensive that most TBolt peripherals don't even come with a TBolt cable, so you have to add in the cost of the cable when making a purchase) and the still sky high cost of other TBolt peripherals.

As an example, a TBolt hub that adds at best 2 TBolt ports all cost around a minimum of $200, whereas for a USB 3.0 hub that adds 4 ports one can be had for under $20.

USB 3.0 is currently the sweet spot IMO when it comes to performance relative to price.

For Pros with deep pockets and demanding uses such as gaming development and video production TBolt offers a boost in performance, but for the "Joe average" user TBolt peripherals still remain cost prohibitive. That is in a nut shell why the uptake has been so slow.

Thank god Apple had the good common sense to start implementing USB 3.0 when they did. Finally, dead last on that front.

And yet Apple still get's accolades from some for being first when it comes to "modern technology" (they have been on very few occasions).

All the while when in terms of modern product delivery to their customers, in fact, they have been behind on a number of occasions.

Apple has stopped listening to their customers a long time ago now (if they ever did) and will always go their own way... sometimes to their benefit and sometimes to their detriment.

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