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Old Apr 15th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #11
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Thanks for the input everyone. I'm going to have to rearrange some drives and find a time window to run the first backup for each of the machines...

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Old Apr 15th, 2013, 11:18 PM   #12
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Hmmm.... WCraig.

Why even bother wasting your time and money if your son, and possibly daughter, can't expend a small amount of time and energy to get a backup in place.

Then, if and when they loose any important data without at least a somewhat current backup, they'll learn fast and finally wise up.

As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water...etc.

A no brainer to me and the end of the "problem".
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Old Apr 16th, 2013, 07:37 AM   #13
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Hmmm.... WCraig.

Why even bother wasting your time and money if your son, and possibly daughter, can't expend a small amount of time and energy to get a backup in place.

Then, if and when they loose any important data without at least a somewhat current backup, they'll learn fast and finally wise up.

As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water...etc.

A no brainer to me and the end of the "problem".
Aren't you supposed to finish with: "And keep off my lawn!"?

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Aren't you supposed to finish with: "And keep off my lawn!"?

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No, that's already taken and used as a handle by another member.

BTW: I haven't seen any sign of a horse nor a knight in shining armour charging in here to defend or explain Apple's decision about removing the IR receiver port.
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Old Apr 16th, 2013, 03:56 PM   #15
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There's merit in letting kids fail but i'd set up the backup solution as a responsible computer owner and make it as simple as possible....and then if the kids still manage not to backup then at that point you have done what you could and there's a lesson to be learned.
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Old Apr 18th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #16
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I'm a fan of the OSX server option. The server app is really inexpensive, and has some useful functionality. One of which is sending me reminders by email if it's been over 7 days since the last backup. The backup space is treated like a shared drive on the server. As long as the user has access to the shared folder, no other intervention is required.

One advantage over using an airport Extreme shared disk is that if you use USB3, FW800 or TBolt on the Mini for your storage, you can get much faster backups, since the Airport uses USB2, and a pretty crappy implementation of it to boot. If you're backing up over gigabit ethernet, it makes a difference.

Also, if you have newer portables with a built-in SSD, PowerNap will take care of backing them up without even having to be turned on.
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I agree I don't recommend people use AirDisk for backups...it is just too slow.
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Old Apr 18th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #18
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I agree I don't recommend people use AirDisk for backups...it is just too slow.
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AirDisk Pro - Wireless Flash Drive ??

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Old Apr 18th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #19
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I'm a fan of the OSX server option. The server app is really inexpensive, and has some useful functionality. One of which is sending me reminders by email if it's been over 7 days since the last backup. The backup space is treated like a shared drive on the server. As long as the user has access to the shared folder, no other intervention is required.

One advantage over using an airport Extreme shared disk is that if you use USB3, FW800 or TBolt on the Mini for your storage, you can get much faster backups, since the Airport uses USB2, and a pretty crappy implementation of it to boot. If you're backing up over gigabit ethernet, it makes a difference.

Also, if you have newer portables with a built-in SSD, PowerNap will take care of backing them up without even having to be turned on.
The reminders would be a good thing. Just checked another machine that my daughter currently uses and found it complaining that TimeMachine had not been able to complete a backup in 30 days!! No one thought to mention it to me. Is there an emoticon for pulling one's hair out?

I don't think speed of the backup is that big of a deal. I don't want them to lose school work.

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Old Apr 19th, 2013, 09:38 AM   #20
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Sorry...proper term would be AirPort Disk (Apple - AirPort Extreme - Features - Hard Drive Sharing). Basically just sharing a drive off the USB port on an AirPort Extreme.

I think if you just shared a drive on the Mini and set up each time machine to back up to that drive you'd be fine. The initial back might be slow so I'd recommend making sure the machines are connected to an Ethernet port to speed up data transfer. After that it only backs up changes which are typically small.
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