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Old Feb 1st, 2013, 06:43 AM   #1
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Hacking of NY Time & WS Journal..

So, these very powerful newspapers got hacked. Are Macs/osX less prone to being hacked?
How do the hackers manage to do it? What I mean is, what's the best way to prevent it..? Same precautions as when dealing with viruses?

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Old Feb 1st, 2013, 06:24 PM   #2
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Some info on what the hackers did and how they did it:

New York Times Hacked Again, This Time Allegedly by Chinese | Threat Level | Wired.com

No info on what the NYT network runs on, but my guess would be Windows Server.

More info - including what they did to clean up;

BBC News - How the New York Times cleaned house after its hack attack

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Every device, be it a laptop or chunk of network hardware, known or thought to have been compromised by the Chinese hackers was thrown out and replaced with a shiny, and more importantly, clean machine.
Insane. Seems to me someone in the IT department used this as the perfect opportunity to demand new hardware, and corporate bought into the idea, though they really should have known it wasn't necessary. Then again, having worked at a newspaper, I know how resistant they can be to updating machines, operating systems and software, particularly if running proprietary publishing software along with the usual Quark/InDesign. So who knows - maybe they were due for a serious upgrade anyway.
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A Windows based hacking story in the Anthing Mac thread? Why?
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A Windows based hacking story in the Anthing Mac thread? Why?
Why not? Where else, in the "Troubleshooting" thread?

I'm not a computer guru,my expertise is in other fields, so I figure it would be handy to check with those who are more in the know on this.
Even I know owning a Mac is better than a Windows machine when it comes to security, but how much safer..?

BTW, you had me there for a second: I almost had to look up the definition of "Anthing"..

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Why not? Where else, in the "Troubleshooting" thread?

I'm not a computer guru,my expertise is in other fields, so I figure it would be handy to check with those who are more in the know on this.
Even I know owning a Mac is better than a Windows machine when it comes to security, but how much safer..?

BTW, you had me there for a second: I almost had to look up the definition of "Anthing"..
I guess you missed the par about Anything "Mac"?

Everything Else, eh would be my choice, but whatever turns your crank. Carry on.
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So, these very powerful newspapers got hacked. Are Macs/osX less prone to being hacked?
How do the hackers manage to do it? What I mean is, what's the best way to prevent it..? Same precautions as when dealing with viruses?
Plain and simple, your security is you. These attacks are normally done through social engineering. You fall for it, you're owned. At very least they have access to anything you have access to. Once in, then they go after vulnerabilities they can use to gain persistence and more access. Ultimate goal is to ensure they can come and go as they please and take what they want.

I don't know your environment (are you one machine or a corporation with well equipped and trained security staff?) and why you'd be of any interest to foes like the newspapers saw. If you have something valuable and the cost of getting it is less than it is worth to the attacker, they will get it. Don't forget that for the country suspected in these cases, there's a well educated population with a very low wage. This is not about kids in their parent's basement, its well funded armies of professionals that believe in what they are doing. Antivirus software will not protect you.

If you want to protect yourself, turn off the computer. ;-) If you insist on continuing to use it, be careful. Don't open email you don't expect. Don't accept files from places that can't be trusted. Keep your software up to date. Be paranoid and hope that nobody gives a damn about what you do or have.
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