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Old Dec 21st, 2012, 04:50 PM   #1
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The "Apple Tax" - America's costly obsession

Holy smoke, that's a new phrase for our Apple expenditures.

"With the "fiscal cliff" looming, taxpayers are wringing their hands about all sorts of things. Income taxes might rise, dividends might get walloped, lifetime gift-tax exemptions might get slashed.

But when it comes to immediate impact on their wallets, maybe they should be thinking about something else entirely: The Apple tax.

Americans are shelling out big bucks annually to outfit the entire household with Apple products. And they are spending hundreds - if not thousands of dollars - more each year for the unexpected Apple "taxes"..."

And I guess that includes us Canadians as well.

And this seems high, "... In 2011, the average amount U.S. households spent on Apple products was $444, according to Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty.

That figure has been rising smartly every year."

Your Money: The Apple Tax - America's costly obsession | Reuters

Hmmm... I know I've contributed a few hundred dollars to Apple and other companies again this year to support our Apple/Mac habit addiction, but I never considered any such expenditures as a "tax".
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Old Dec 21st, 2012, 08:40 PM   #2
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I spend more than that a month in property taxes now (up from only $130/mo a few years ago) to support a government I know is working to destroy my neighbourhood. THAT is a tax.

$444/year? At least with Apple, I can VOTE (with my wallet)

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Old Dec 21st, 2012, 08:50 PM   #3
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I spend more than that a month in property taxes now (up from only $130/mo a few years ago) to support a government I know is working to destroy my neighbourhood. THAT is a tax.

$444/year? At least with Apple, I can VOTE (with my wallet)

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"With the "fiscal cliff" looming
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The article is nearly two weeks old so many people have already picked it apart but since this is newly posted here I want to address this "tax". It's not a "tax". It's not imposed upon you by a government, it's not even mandatory. Just a click grabbing headline. The best I can figure, this guy saw an opportunity to try and pin the old "Microsoft Tax" on Apple too but it doesn't work. The "Microsoft Tax" was a fee that had to be paid upon buying many home computers whether or not you wanted Windows because MS made it mandatory for PC companies to pay a licence fee for all systems.
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And you say don't drink the "kool aid"... Seems you just are drinking the red "kool aid" as opposed to the blue.
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Old Dec 22nd, 2012, 11:48 AM   #7
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Hmmm... I know I've contributed a few hundred dollars to Apple and other companies again this year to support our Apple/Mac habit addiction, but I never considered any such expenditures as a "tax".
That would be because: You had a choice about spending it and you feel you got reasonably full value for the money spent.
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Seems you just are drinking the red "kool aid" as opposed to the blue.
from the article (did you actually read it or just take the easy route based on the source):
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What you probably haven't heard is the way liberal economist James K. Galbraith describes the "fiscal cliff": "It's a crisis that was contrived a year ago...[T]hese deadlines...were established to create a climate of crisis when things could be done that could not immediately be subject to debate as you get before an election."
hardly a "red" except in the fantasy world of tea party/republican nut jobs.
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from the article (did you actually read it or just take the easy route based on the source):
hardly a "red" except in the fantasy world of tea party/republican nut jobs.
I did read the article, and agree it's not a cliff at all.

Any current proposal on the table increases taxes now and leaves cuts far into the future. There is no desire among the majority in either party to really cut spending. The 50-year deal: don't cut entitlements and we won't cut military spending.

The proposed cuts mentioned in the article are all slated for the far-flung future. All tax increases are immediate. This is no reasonable bargain offered by Obama.

However, I don't believe that the cliff is anything Obama wants to avoid. On the other side of the cliff, he will blame the Republicans for the situation, declare that he is supporting new tax cuts for the poor and middle class and will find a way to restore some of the lost military spending, thus destroying the Republican brand.
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from the article (did you actually read it or just take the easy route based on the source):
hardly a "red" except in the fantasy world of tea party/republican nut jobs.
Yep I read it and I also read your profile where you stated your favourite Canadian is Maurice Spector.

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Maurice Spector (1898 - August 1, 1968) was the Chairman of the Communist Party of Canada and editor of its newspaper, The Worker,[1] for much of the 1920s and an early follower of Leon Trotsky after his split from the Communist International.[2]
Nuff said. I stand by my post.

My post was not about the article but about your statement "Don't drink the "kool aid", which you clearly have, just the flavour/colour of your choosing, that was my point. Seems you just didn't get it.

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