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Old Aug 3rd, 2012, 05:29 PM   #51
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And has anyone tried buying Lion from Apple by phoning them?
What happens?
I decided to answer my own question and called Apple Sales.

Well, after 30 minutes on the phone, ten of which I was on hold while the sales lady consulted with someone else, I'm still no further ahead.

We got as far as....
Call Apple Sales and pay for Lion at $29.99 for as many personal Macs that you own.
Then they would send you a redemption code by email, so far so good, sounds the same as the redemption code I received for Mountain Lion.

But then it gets a bit shaky -
Next step is to go to the apps store to redeem the code, but how that is possible/works for an item that is not offered for sale on the app store, the sales person didn't know. All I got repeatedly is that the steps to follow would be in the email.

At least the suggestion was there that one can still buy Lion from Apple - if that turns out in the end to be true is still a question in my mind.
If one can still buy it from the app store by calling Apple why not make it available directly rather than have people go through the hassle of a phone order.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2012, 08:39 PM   #52
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I decided to answer my own question and called Apple Sales.
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At least the suggestion was there that one can still buy Lion from Apple - if that turns out in the end to be true is still a question in my mind.
If one can still buy it from the app store by calling Apple why not make it available directly rather than have people go through the hassle of a phone order.

The ongoing question that only Apple might know the answer...

It happened with previous OS X releases back when 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 and now 10.7.

Make sure you keep the Lion installer available somewhere before running it that you can use later and no doubt on your other Macs.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2012, 11:33 PM   #53
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The ongoing question that only Apple might know the answer...

It happened with previous OS X releases back when 10.4, 10.5, 10.6
and now 10.7.

Make sure you keep the Lion installer available somewhere before running it that you can use later and no doubt on your other Macs.
How so? You could still buy the previous gen OSX previously so long as someone had stock... this is something completely new with the advent of the "App Store"... it's not the same thing at all... not even close.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2012, 11:52 PM   #54
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How so? You could still buy the previous gen OSX previously so long as someone had stock... this is something completely new with the advent of the "App Store"... it's not the same thing at all... not even close.
Not only that....if I as an individual, not Apple authorized or associated, had a sealed copy, it was perfectly legal for me to sell that copy.
In fact there was a copy of Snow Leopard just being offered on ehMac.

That is no longer true for Lion or ML.
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Old Aug 4th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #55
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How so? You could still buy the previous gen OSX previously so long as someone had stock... this is something completely new with the advent of the "App Store"... it's not the same thing at all... not even close.
I was referring to such previous OS X version purchases from Apple's older 'Apple Store', not their latest 'App Store'.

I got stuck a few years ago when neither of my Leopard 10.5 'retail' install disks worked and right after they released SL. Leopard was then not made easily available to purchase from them without contacting their Customer Support which I did, and for a nominal shipping/handling fee of about $20.00, I received a "Not for Resale" Leopard 10.5.x install disk.

Those running Tiger etc. who didn't do any timely update to a later supported OS X version and now want to, have quite an update OS X battle ahead of them.

And often quite expensive if one checks out what some of the old OS X completed ebay purchases.

Why can't Apple just allow an older procrastinating Mac user to purchase an old OS X version so that they could finally update??

But I guess they don't really need the money these days as they used to!!
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If one can still buy it from the app store by calling Apple why not make it available directly rather than have people go through the hassle of a phone order.
Because people are too lazy nowadays... I tell you in my day, we had to phone around to find an item, then actually drive to the seller's location and buy it! This young whippersnappers nowadays are spoiled!

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You mean you actually had a phone that would work, even if on a party line, and a car to drive around in? Wow!!

What happened to slogging all those miles through the snow or over the parched dusty roads or through the rain and precipitous West Coast roads to finally get what you wanted - and then get back home??

And now the cane is broken and the teeth sit in a jar, and a bit of Googling and you can sit on the porch in the rocking chair and await delivery of the desired item. But maybe just not an older OS X install disk from Apple.
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I was referring to such previous OS X version purchases from Apple's older 'Apple Store', not their latest 'App Store'.

I got stuck a few years ago when neither of my Leopard 10.5 'retail' install disks worked and right after they released SL. Leopard was then not made easily available to purchase from them without contacting their Customer Support which I did, and for a nominal shipping/handling fee of about $20.00, I received a "Not for Resale" Leopard 10.5.x install disk.

Those running Tiger etc. who didn't do any timely update to a later supported OS X version and now want to, have quite an update OS X battle ahead of them.

And often quite expensive if one checks out what some of the old OS X completed ebay purchases.

Why can't Apple just allow an older procrastinating Mac user to purchase an old OS X version so that they could finally update??


But I guess they don't really need the money these days as they used to!!
C'mon we are talking about an OS that is just 1 year old a bit hyperboilc don't you think.
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You mean you actually had a phone that would work, even if on a party line, and a car to drive around in? Wow!!

What happened to slogging all those miles through the snow or over the parched dusty roads or through the rain and precipitous West Coast roads to finally get what you wanted - and then get back home??

And now the cane is broken and the teeth sit in a jar, and a bit of Googling and you can sit on the porch in the rocking chair and await delivery of the desired item. But maybe just not an older OS X install disk from Apple.
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You can definitely purchase Lion still direct from Apple over the phone. They send you a redemption code you redeem in the App Store and it starts downloading Lion.

What would seem logical to me would be for the App Store to check the hardware it's running on and, if it's not ML compliant, offer Lion, otherwise present ML.
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