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Old Oct 11th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #181
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Those are 'manipulated' numbers. The carriers weren't taking pre-orders last time, so it stands to reason there would be more this time around!
Manipulated? Sounds more like actual sales to me. And that's numbers sold, not numbers shipped either, a statistic the competition likes to bandy about. Seems like a pretty good launch for a mere evolutionary upgrade.
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Old Oct 11th, 2011, 08:44 AM   #182
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How is it possible that someone who hasn't purchased a handset from Rogers since the launch of the iPhone 3G actually has to pay more than their quoted prices on their website? To me this makes very little sense, especially considering I am no longer under contract with Rogers.
Rogers gave me the following info:


iPhone 4S 16GB $209.00 + $320.00 Early Upgrade Fee* + $35 Hardware Upgrade Administration Fee
iPhone 4S 32GB $319.00 + $320.00 Early Upgrade Fee* + $35 Hardware Upgrade Administration Fee
iPhone 4S 64GB $419.00 + $320.00 Early Upgrade Fee* + $35 Hardware Upgrade Administration Fee
iPhone 4 8GB $149.00 + $320.00 Early Upgrade Fee* + $35 Hardware Upgrade Administration Fee

Customers who renew on select three-year terms may be eligible for a one-time $50 Hardware Upgrade Rebate credit. Credit to be applied to customer’s invoice. Offer subject to change without notice. Full Hardware Upgrade Rebate details available in store.

With the $50 credit - it works out to the same price plus the ECF. I think I will just get an unlocked one -- if retentions doesn't want to play nice.
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Old Oct 11th, 2011, 10:26 AM   #183
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Manipulated? Sounds more like actual sales to me. And that's numbers sold, not numbers shipped either, a statistic the competition likes to bandy about. Seems like a pretty good launch for a mere evolutionary upgrade.
Sorry...'manipulated' isn't the right term. Basically, it's not an "apples to apples" comparison. But whatever....I'm in line for one just like every other iPhone! Can't say I'm not disappointed there's not a redesign, but it should be fantastic nonetheless....
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Sorry...'manipulated' isn't the right term. Basically, it's not an "apples to apples" comparison. But whatever....I'm in line for one just like every other iPhone! Can't say I'm not disappointed there's not a redesign, but it should be fantastic nonetheless....
I think the S in 4S this time stands for Siri.
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I think the S in 4S this time stands for Siri.
To me, it will always mean "Steve".
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Old Oct 11th, 2011, 12:48 PM   #187
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Yes, but that was for the 3GS. No one has said what it stands for this time, though "Steve" would be the sentimental favorite.
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The 'S' stands for "Shafted in Canada Once Again" meaning that we will not be getting Siri, which is one of the major reasons to buy this phone. We very much play second fiddle to the US when it comes to anything along those lines. It took 5+ years for our iTunes music store to catch up but I think that Apple gave up the race after that one. The iBooks store is still horrible and not getting better, there are huge huge gaps missing in their lineup and I don't see them making any strides for it to get better. If Siri is not being offered to us due to IP concerns then we'll likely never see it here, which is a shame.

Apple is and has always been all about the US being their primary target and what drives their market, and everyone else is a big "meh" to them in terms of offering something that the whole world, or at least a good part of it, can take advantage of. Apple is still a US company that is concerned about the US market, when they really should be thinking along a more global scale.
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[QUOTE=mguertin;1136332]The 'S' stands for "Shafted in Canada Once Again" meaning that we will not be getting Siri, which is one of the major reasons to buy this phone. ... If Siri is not being offered to us due to IP concerns then we'll likely never see it here, which is a shame.
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What's your source for this claim?
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The 'S' stands for "Shafted in Canada Once Again" meaning that we will not be getting Siri, which is one of the major reasons to buy this phone. We very much play second fiddle to the US when it comes to anything along those lines. It took 5+ years for our iTunes music store to catch up but I think that Apple gave up the race after that one. The iBooks store is still horrible and not getting better, there are huge huge gaps missing in their lineup and I don't see them making any strides for it to get better. If Siri is not being offered to us due to IP concerns then we'll likely never see it here, which is a shame.
Siri will work in Canada. It's not officially advertised because the French language option of Siri, apparently, is currently unavailable.
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