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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 08:55 AM   #1
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iPad with iPhone OS vs Mac OSX

Interesting article from AppleInsider about why Apple probably chose to go iPhone os for the iPad rather than use full Mac OSX.

AppleInsider | Inside Apple's iPad: iPhone OS vs Mac OS X

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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 11:38 AM   #2
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Uhm... did you check that link?

Besides, it's obvious what it doesn't have full-blown MacOS X. Performance and control over user experience. As I have said numerous times, you can go buy a tablet with MacOS X if you want one. There's been one available for more than a year.
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Sorry, posted the OP from my iPhone this AM, didn't realize AI redirects Non-mobile safari to the Homepage - annoying.

Either way, the article is Pro iPhone OS vs. Mac OSX on the iPad - as am I. Just posting it as some explanation for those who have been complaining that the iPad should have Full Mac OS X
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Someone will eventually find a way to install OS X on the iPad.
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Someone will eventually find a way to install OS X on the iPad.
Not a chance... you realize that the ARM processor in the iPod is neither PowerPC nor Intel (the two OS X supported architectures), right?
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You know, Tim Cook -- the COO of Apple and, one presumes, someone who actually knows this to be true -- says quite explicitly that the so-called "iPhone OS" *is* Mac OS X, but just a scaled-down version of it. Indeed, he cites this as proof of how "scaleable" Mac OS X is.

Ah, what does he know compared the geniuses in punditland?
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You know, Tim Cook -- the COO of Apple and, one presumes, someone who actually knows this to be true -- says quite explicitly that the so-called "iPhone OS" *is* Mac OS X, but just a scaled-down version of it. Indeed, he cites this as proof of how "scaleable" Mac OS X is.

Ah, what does he know compared the geniuses in punditland?
I can't speak for anybody else, but a comment like that shows you have nothing else to offer but insipid remarks.

Perhaps you can educate said pundits with something with more intelligent and less douchbaggy?

It doesn't belie the fact that the reason that Intel and PPC have specific versions of OS X. But simply assuming that OS X works on all flavours of processors with no muss or fuss is completely short-sighted.

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Also, chas_m, the article references OSX as the UI elements, how distinctive they are from the iPhone OS UI - despite some of the underpinnings being the same, I think the article's arguments hold up.

Apple could easily have ported full OSX over to the A4 ARM-based processor, but chose not to. A plausible reason why being what the article states (and I whole-heartedly agree with) - having the Menu Bar and Dock and mouse pointer-type elements on a 10" touch screen seem like a nightmare from an actual usability standpoint.
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IMHO, you guys are being a little hard on chas_m (in this case, at least! )

If Tim Cook says it's a scaled-down version of OSX, I'll believe him, since it jibes with other descriptions of the iPhone OS when it first came out.

As for not having OS X running on the A4... heck, I'm pretty sure Apple has a team of folks hidden away porting OS X to run on pretty much anything that can do floating-point calculations. Their Intel team laboured in obscurity for years before the PowerPC was abandoned.

I'd like to see a comment or two from those who are developers who know the intricacies of the OS on the matter...
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Jobs (and Cook, and before him Tavanian) have stated over and over again that Mac OS X is not only incredibly scaleable, but also very portable. Jobs mentions this in almost every in-depth interview he's ever done.

That's not to say you could get it to run on the greeting-card sound chip next Tuesday, but that, like UNIX/Linux, making it run on other chips/hardware is not a significant engineering challenge.

Indeed, Mac OS X has already BEEN ported to different chips several times over, generally without huge headaches for either Apple or developers.

Simplifying the OS interface to take maximum advantage of different hardware is really not the same thing as writing an entirely new OS that tries to mimic the behaviour of another OS (coughWINMOBILEcough).
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