iPad. The next day - ehMac.ca
Facebook
Twitter
YouTube
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Advertise


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:06 AM   #1
Honourable Citizen
 
andreww's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,788
iPad. The next day

SO we've all had a night to sleep on it and think a little bit more about this new device. I personally was not blown away by it, nor do I really see a need for it. I do however understand Macdoc's enthusiasm, and his prediction that the iPad will be a game changer for the publishing industry. This business model has worked for music and movies, so why not books? I totally agree with the idea of bringing the printed word to a digital format, and believe that the iBook store is a brilliant idea. What I don't believe is that the iPad is the game changing device that it is cracked up to be. The iBook store and digital format publishing can and will be a success, with or without the iPad. At the very event that it was launched, Steve announced that Apple was now selling more laptops than desktop systems. No surprise there as portables have more than enough power these days to deal with even the most complex programs. People are more than willing to take a slight hit on speed in exchange for portability and the freedom to work where they like. So why will the masses want to buy this device? Portability? Once you put it in a case, I say its no more portable than a 13" MBP or MBA, and it only has 2% of the capabilities of those machines.

I'm sure that all the Apple fan boys will line up to buy these things, but I really don't expect it to be accepted by the masses. IMO I think the iPad will have about the same popularity as the Apple TV, and not that of the iPod or iPhone.
andreww is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:27 AM   #2
sae
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 153
Three HUGE deal breakers for me:
- no handwriting recognition (apple has teamed up with some college book publishers so you can get the books on the ipad, how cool would it have been to highlight and write on it like I do with a real book?)

- no multitasking (who can do anything without listening to music?)

- no 3rd party apps? lame.
sae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:37 AM   #3
Honourable Citizen
 
mikef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Newmarket, ON
Posts: 2,219
Quote:
Originally Posted by sae View Post
- no multitasking (who can do anything without listening to music?)
My iPod Touch lets me listen to music while I do other things... I cannot imagine the iPad will be different in this regard.

Quote:
- no 3rd party apps? lame.
What I think you meant to say is that no apps that don't come from the App Store. With the exception of a handful, every app in the app store is "3rd party".
__________________
The New iPad WiFi 16GB
iPhone 6 64GB (Telus)
MacBook Pro Retina 13" - Late 2013, 2.5GHz i5, 250GB SSD, 16GB
MacBook Pro 15" - Late 2008 2.4GHz C2D, 8GB, 250GB SSD
mikef is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:39 AM   #4
Retired Mayor of ehMac
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ontario
Posts: 10,264
Send a message via AIM to ehMax
Quote:
Originally Posted by sae View Post
- no 3rd party apps? lame.
HUH?

One of the iPads biggest selling points. There's currently 140,000 with tons of iPad specifc apps coming out.

I 100% guarantee everyone that the iPad will be much, much bigger than the Apple TV is. This is version 1.0... actually, it ships in 60 days and we don't even know fully what its capable of or not. Subsequent versions of it and once we really start seeing some of the iPad specific 3rd party apps.

People who really know what they are talking about see this thing clearly. Guys like David Pogue and Walt Mossberg.

It's not going to be for everyone, but its going to be for a lot of people. They'll sell more of these than iMacs within a year.

I'll quote this specific thread when I'm right.
ehMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:44 AM   #5
Honourable Citizen
 
bhil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Regina
Posts: 1,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by sae View Post
Three HUGE deal breakers for me:
- no handwriting recognition (apple has teamed up with some college book publishers so you can get the books on the ipad, how cool would it have been to highlight and write on it like I do with a real book?)

- no multitasking (who can do anything without listening to music?)

- no 3rd party apps? lame.
1. While handwriting would have been nice, it was pretty much a given they wouldn't do it since they made such a big deal when they released the iPhone about not needing a stylus. I would have liked it too, but it not existing didn't make it a deal breaker.

2. Most apps, unless they use their own sound, allow your music to keep playing in the background when you open them (I just tested this with Safari and two 3rd party apps). Yes their is no true multitasking but this seems to address your primary concern.

3. I'm not sure what you mean by this? Steve made quite certain to repeat that you can use most of the existing 140,000 3rd party apps that already exist.

For me the deal breaker will be whether or not I can tether it to my iPhone to use my existing data plan. I have no intention of buying another data plan, and the WiFi coverage won't be good enough on it's own. If it doesn't I might have to invest in something like MyWi, but then continued useful usage of my iPad would be dependent on continued jailbreakability of my iPhone.
__________________
Ahhh...
Pleasing, inspirational, fulfilling, worthwhile insanity.
bhil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:46 AM   #6
Honourable Citizen
 
andreww's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,788
Have to disagree with you on that Mayor, but I guess time will tell.
andreww is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:50 AM   #7
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 439
Look at this way:

I think the iPad has been designed with a very select set of features as not to confuse us as to what is it or what it does. Admittedly, it still confuses me but I think there is a method it's madness.

If you look at it as an eReader and as a device positioned solely to compete with other eReaders; it wins. It does so much more than the Kindle to a point that it's embarrassing. If it's here to save the print industry then it might succeed but I feel like that's more in the hands of the print industries ability to produce the software and content that is well executed and well written.

Compare it to a laptop it's seems like a sick joke to the point that I'm a little offended.

Compare the iPad to iPods and iPhones and you'll have a harder time bashing it but it's certainly not a stretch. It's not suppose to be a phone but the lack of a camera, mic and it's size seem limiting and awkward. I think it will be a better media experience than the iPod though. It's somewhere in the middle and it's hard to say how the iPad's user experience will be better than the iPod/iPhone until we get to use.

What I want is for Apple to put every gimmic, gadget and "game changing" feature in one "Jesus Tablet". What I get is a device that is designed in a way that I can't possibly understand until I spend time with it. It's a lifestyle device and I think Apple has thought long and hard about not what it should be; but what it shouldn't be.

Multi-tasking is not the point of this device. Reading a book should be just that. If they did put every bell and whistle in it then it would be a confusing device. Why do we need a camera in a book? Why would I want to Skype with with someone when I'm watching a movie? Maybe these aren't the best examples but you get my point? Desktops, laptops, ipods and iPhones all have purposes unto themselves. If they gave to us all in one device it would messy.

I'm not going to knock it 'til I try it
iheartmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 08:51 AM   #8
Honourable Citizen
 
iMatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,855
I don't think it will change any games just yet, but it has potential. Despite my long list of dislikes below, I do think it will be a success. Maybe not a runaway smash hit, but a solid success.

These are the things I woke up disliking, to varying degrees:

- Lack of multitasking. On the iPod touch and iPhone, this could be justified by hardware limitations. That doesn't fly with the iPad, where it looks more like a great big artificial line between Work and Play. And yet iPad is clearly designed for light work, with iWork for starters. I'm expecting this limitation to vanish sooner than later, i.e. when the iPhone OS goes to 4.x.

- Lack of Flash. I don't care all that much about this one personally, but again something that used to be justifiable due to hardware limitations now looks more like a way of tying users to video content sold by Apple. Let the people have this one, Apple... it's not a dealbreaker for me, but it's going to scare off a lot of people.

- File management and printing. Maybe this isn't a real issue, but from what I've seen there's no easy, Finder-ish way to manage files. And if it isn't 1-2-3 easy to print to a printer on a wireless network, that will be a big minus.

- I/O. The more I think about it, the more the lack of a USB port, or at least an SD/SDHC/SDXC slot, seems a serious omission. (I would prefer the card slot personally, but can see where USB would be more useful to more people.)

- Weight. I have to assume this was prototyped 1001 ways, and they decided it needed a little heft. While 1.5 lb is quite light by most measures, it's still not exactly featherweight. I will have to handle one in person before deciding if this is a real issue for me.

- Largely useless for typing when not docked. You're either looking at one-handed hunt-and-peck, or trying to type with the curved-back iPad sitting on a flat surface or clumsily propped at an angle using a pillow or knees.

At the moment, the only real dealbreaker for me is the multitasking. Everything else is either a cause for mild concern, or a reason I believe people will hold off (Flash is the big one there).
iMatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 09:01 AM   #9
Honourable Citizen
 
iMatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,855
Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartmac View Post
Multi-tasking is not the point of this device. Reading a book should be just that.
For one thing, it's much more than a reader. For another, what if you want to look something up while reading? Or pause to read new mail? Wouldn't it be better to be able to go straight to Safari or Mail and back in a couple of swipes, rather than having to quit your book reader, launch Safari, quit Safari, launch your reader...

Now imagine working in any iWork app without being able to simply hide it while you do something related to your task in another app. I don't want to go back to 1986, thanks.

I think (or maybe hope is the word) this is an artificial limitation arising from current iPhone/iPod hardware + OS, not a permanent thing.
iMatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28th, 2010, 09:02 AM   #10
Retired Mayor of ehMac
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ontario
Posts: 10,264
Send a message via AIM to ehMax
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreww View Post
Have to disagree with you on that Mayor, but I guess time will tell.
Just like it did with the iPhone.

This won't be as big as the iPhone, but they will get to selling 5 million + in their first year.
ehMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Screen share Mac to iPad? Amiga2000HD All iOS - iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV & iTunes 10 Mar 23rd, 2010 08:58 AM
iPad Joker Eh All iOS - iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV & iTunes 303 Feb 3rd, 2010 03:52 PM
iPhone Tethering with iPad Sander All iOS - iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV & iTunes 11 Jan 28th, 2010 03:10 PM
When is the Apple iPad going to Debut anyways? Lawrence All iOS - iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Apple TV & iTunes 5 Jan 12th, 2010 02:29 PM
The new iPad ehMax Anything Mac 3 Jan 22nd, 2006 04:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:21 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 1999 - 2012, ehMac.ca All rights reserved. ehMac is not affiliated with Apple Inc. Mac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, Apple TV are trademarks of Apple Inc. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2

Tribe.ca: Urban living in Toronto!