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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #1
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Apple TV?

So who owns one that can tell me why I might want to buy one? I have a PS3 and it's a great media player for my plasma tv. I also bought an app called MediaLink that lets me stream content from my mac to the PS3 wirelessly. It sometimes drops the connection but generally it's ok. It's also good because it plays most movie and audio formats.

Am I going to be disappointed with the restrictions of AppleTV? I think the only reason I want it is to watch the movies I've rented or bought on iTunes but is that enough of a reason? Maybe only I can answer that but any insight from people who love this hardware would be great. I've always considered AppleTV to be a big failure as you never hear about it....ever.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #2
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Personally, I love my AppleTV.

Skimming the store and renting movies is the biggest thing for me as of late. It's so easy if you're bored to rent a movie and watch it now.. in HD, or SD.

I also have MediaLink, but it's nothing compared to the integration of the AppleTV, especially if you have iTMS files. I buy from the store a lot, so I have a lot of movies that MediaLink can't play. For DivX and other formats though, the PS3 is awesome.

I recently started watching HD Podcasts.. (The DiggReel) which has completely blown me away. I had no idea that some of these podcasts are so professionally done.. they're very good quality and a lot of them are about things I'm interested in.. BIG bonus for the AppleTV in making it so easy to watch them.

I hate most of the Canadian TV content.. so, I haven't purchased a TV episode yet.. but, I'm sure as we move along, the content will get better. I will enjoy watching TV again. Until then, I just don't watch it.

Airtunes is another big plus. I have my AppleTV connected to a completely digital home theater system.. streaming music from my computer to my Airport Express and AppleTV allows it to play on every level of my home. In Sync! Truly great for parties or chilling on a Sunday doing chores all over the house.

If you have an iPhone or iPod Touch, you can use it to type in your searches instead of typing them in with the little remote.. that's quite handy.

I don't know if I can think of any negatives with the AppleTV at the moment. For most people, it's the media files and codecs that are the issue.. but, I don't really have a problem with that. I purchased VisualHub long ago and I use that to convert video to the proper AppleTV format. And, as I mentioned earlier.. if it's for quickness sake, I'll use the PS3 to play them.

I'll put it this way.. if you're an avid Mac Geek, you'll love the AppleTV.. because, it's completely Apple.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 11:15 PM   #3
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I love my Apple TV. I mainly use it for renting HD movies, and to have my entire iTunes library (meaning my entire CD collection) accessible with a click in my rec room. I don't even have a CD player hooked up to the rec room stereo anymore. It's also very cool to have all the pix in my iPhoto library on the big screen. When friends and family come over, it's cool to be able to show them vacation pix and so on.

The only TV shows I actually bought on it are a dozen or so music videos and a couple classic Bugs Bunny cartoons. I wish I could *rent* HD TV shows with it, if I could then I could dump Rogers (by the way, I have a US iTunes account via US iTunes gift cards I buy on ebay, so the TV selection I get is the US one).

I love the little 6-button remote and I love navigating around, watching movie trailers, tv samples, music video samples, my own music and photos, and the integrated YouTube sometimes comes in handy. It makes me wish I could control the TV, the PVR, and the Blu-Ray player all with that little Apple remote.

For $250 it's a hell of a little machine. And they seem to regularly push software updates so hopefully it will continue to get even more full featured.

What I'd *really* like is a PVR type facility so I could dump my crappy Rogers PVR. If Apple TV every introduced a TV subscription service or even HD TV *rentals*, that would be awesome.

I will admit, though, it kind of sucks not to be able to watch a DivX on the thing. But I rarely download TV or movies in those formats anyway, so it's not a big deal for me to put them on a DVD and play them in my DivX capable DVD player. Although I understand that if you get Quicktime Pro, you can open a DivX and "Save As" a Quicktime file. Then you can add that Quicktime file to iTunes, and then stream it to the Apple TV. I have not tried this yet (because I don't have Quicktime Pro), but I read somewhere that it works.

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Old Sep 12th, 2008, 02:54 AM   #4
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I *foolishly* sold my AppleTV before we moved, thinking that Apple would pair the new software with new hardware ... doh!!

Have been thinking about getting another one ever since. Watching the refurbs and just kind of talking myself into it (I don't presently have an HDTV, which has been the main factor keeping me from buying one already).

I should think the combination of the PS3 to play the stuff the unhacked AppleTV won't play plus a ATV would be video-control heaven for most people. It's definitely money well-spent, for the video podcasts and movie rentals alone IMHO.
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Old Sep 12th, 2008, 07:51 AM   #5
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This is all super helpful. I'm definitely going to have a look at them when i go to New York this weekend. I have QT Pro so that'll be great if I can convert but I'll do some reading before to make sure.
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VisualHub is all you need for converting media for AppleTV, ipod, whatever you need. Super easy to run, just load up all your files at night and in the morning they are ready to watch.

I love my appleTV, it is money well spent!
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Old Sep 12th, 2008, 08:28 AM   #7
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iSquint is a less powerful, but free, program from the same people who do Visualhub. Either is highly recommended.
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Old Sep 12th, 2008, 08:40 AM   #8
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I have a PS3 and I use NullRiver's Media Link as well to stream a lot of my content to my Plasma TV.
I also have an Apple TV and use it for most of the reasons folks have mentioned.
Its the only way I have of playing Apple DRM content, much nicer way to browse my photos and music overall and its great for renting movies, especially HD. I use the US iTunes store exclusively.
I don't find the need to use VisualHub or iSquint to convert everything to iTunes (though I own VisualHub and have done some of that).
I don't like the movie and tv show browsing interface on the AppleTV - its pretty flat and I would have liked the ability to at least do playlists etc. In practice I have enough visual content that its carefully organized by directory structure and I like that the PS3 lets me browse that nicely.

Just some more thoughts:
The Apple TV is still a marginal revenue business for Apple - its primary value being a driver in increasing iTunes store sales and revenue. The investment in developing its software interface to date is certainly reflective of that marginal nature. However, it has come a long way since its original release and for many, including myself, is close enough to the sweet spot that I have recommended and pushed many of my friends to get it.

The PS3's streaming interface leaves a lot to be desired - I find it still spotty on at least 20% of my content - the streaming is not smooth and in some cases, the only way to watch it is to copy the content over. The FF/RW interface is terrible, though that may simply be due to limitations in the uPnP stream protocol.
Every PS3 update does seem to change the behaviour - sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse - overall is much more usable than from last year. I don't think its MediaLink issue, since I've tried EyeConnect with similar results.
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I should think the combination of the PS3 to play the stuff the unhacked AppleTV won't play plus a ATV would be video-control heaven for most people. It's definitely money well-spent, for the video podcasts and movie rentals alone IMHO.
I agree, this is what I do now and it works great, and like someone else said I'm really enjoying the HD podcasts.
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This is all super helpful. I'm definitely going to have a look at them when i go to New York this weekend. I have QT Pro so that'll be great if I can convert but I'll do some reading before to make sure.
Add me to the list of happy campers. We have two units and love them. In fact, we ditched cable tv and now use the ATV's and two new TV antennas (over the air - or "OTA") to get our fix.

I would be cautious though of BUYING in the US right now. The 50$ price difference will soon be eaten up by the exchange rate (now a lot worse than it was) and the NY State tax - which you will pay on top of Canadian Taxes at the border when you claim it. Might even cost you more...

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