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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #1
 
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question about calls on the iphone 3g

Hey guys, i am thinking of buying an iphone soon and i have a question.

A friend of mine who is also planning on buying an iphone heard that rogers charges 5c/kb even during voice calls...

Here is the post he pointed me to...


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btw: rogers prepaid data rate is 5 cents per KB. 50$/MB. $50,000/GB
isn't that outrageous?

to download a song from iTunes on data would cost 75$ for a short 3MB song.
BUT why is it if I buy that same song from the rogers music portal they waive the data charge and bill me $1.25huh?

even more confusing and nonsensical,
a voice call is still data. in fact, a voice call uses ~0.7-1.6kB/sec.
that's 10cents/ second in data??

42-97.5kB/ minute.
the equivalent of a 1 minute call in data is $2.10 - $4.87/ minute if data is used instead of voice. heck I get free voice calls after 6pm but then why not free data.
why are there two prices for what is effectively the same service.
I guess we let tel/cablecos bill once for voip(phone), again for iptv(tv), and once again for tcp/ip(Internet), why not once again for mobile.

now can we finally include mobile in the net neutrality debate?

Now i dont know if its true, but personally i dont think so. Can anyone comment on this?

Also 1 more question in a previous post we were talking about blocking data (on this forum). My question had never gotten answered but it was, if i block internet on my iphone from rogers is there ANY chance of getting charged the 5c/kb?



Thanks so much, Dani.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #2
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You and your friend are misinterpreting that post from whoever you got that from. He obviously doesn't understand the context from where he pulled that post from.

To answer your question. Voice calls do not use data.

Let's not turn this into a "rogers charges for wifi" like thread.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #4
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I think you are missing a little critical thought here. First of all, if calls involve data charges: why has no one been charged them this far? Also, what do you assume the voice plans cover if not the cost, data or otherwise of making a call?

If you assume it's iPhone specific, what about them is so different when making a call?

Can you find a corroborating source for this fee, perhaps, from rogers?

If not, I don't think you have a lot to be worried about.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 05:45 PM   #5
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I'm too lazy to check that link you posted. From what I read from the quote you posted it looks like this is a comparison between how much voip data takes and it's theoretical cost with cellular data rates.

Does this not sound ridiculous to you at all?
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as i already said i was just asking and i thought it was bogus also. But the point here is, its ROGERS anything is possible as u saw with the data plans.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #7
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You and your friend are misinterpreting that post from whoever you got that from. He obviously doesn't understand the context from where he pulled that post from.

To answer your question. Voice calls do not use data.

Let's not turn this into a "rogers charges for wifi" like thread.
This reply smacks of arrogance. There are many of us who are not quite sure we trust your well-intentioned and hopefully correct opinions on the subject of Rogers and data usage. Voice is just another form of data, technically speaking. It's all ones and zeroes to electronic equipment, particularly if it's digital rather than analog. You should not be so condescending if other people want to discuss whether or not "rogers charges for wifi." Not everybody got a chance to get the information the first time. If the repetition of the question bothers you, please read something else. But don't make someone feel stupid for asking.
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