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Old Apr 20th, 2004, 01:22 AM   #1
 
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Fwiw, here's the latest form AppleInsider on the status of the iTunes Music Store for Canucks:

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CMRRA points finger at Apple over iTMS Canada delays


By Kasper Jade
Published: 07:00 PM EST

Apple Computer in the final stages of negotiations with both the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) and the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd. (CMRRA) over plans to bring its iTunes Music Store to Canada. But according to the CMRRA, the launch date for the Canadian version of the music store remains "entirely in Apple's hands."

The CMRRA is a non-profit music licensing agency, which represents the vast majority of music copyright owners (usually called music publishers) doing business in Canada, while the CRIA is a non-profit trade organization that represent the interests of Canadian companies that create, manufacture and market sound recordings.

"We are as frustrated as you with the fact that iTunes Music Store isn't yet available in Canada," the CMRRA recently told an AppleInsider correspondent who was researching the subject. "We would be delighted to see them here."

The association said that they are presently in negotiations with Apple to license the iTunes Music Store for activity in Canada, and hope the negotiations lead to an agreement soon, but noted that the timing and manner of the service launch remains entirely in Apple's hands.

"As well as completing their agreement with us, they must also make licensing arrangements for the use of the recordings they will distribute, establish their infrastructure and billing system for Canada and develop a marketing plans for Canada," said David Basskin, President of CMRRA Ltd. Basskin said he has no doubt that Apple is capable of completing all of these tasks, but noted that they are all prerequisites to launching the iTunes Music Store in Canada.

Meanwhile, CRIA officials cited Apple's need to iron out logistics like G.S.T. and exchange rates as a source of the longer than expected service delays, but hinted than an announcement was imminent.

"I do know that [Apple] has approached the publishers and they're currently in final negotiations so we should expect news of their launch here in the near future," said Jennifer Hardy, Manager of Administration & Communications for the CRIA.

Unfortunately, requests for further information were referred back to the CMRRA. The CMRRA, in-turn, suggests that inquiring parties contact Apple.

"You might do well to convey your interest in the iTunes Music Store to Apple, as I'm sure they would be interested in knowing that there's real demand for their product in this market."
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Old Apr 20th, 2004, 09:05 AM   #2
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Hmm.. I wonder if the songs will be 99 CANADIAN or 99 AMERICAN?? If it's AMERICAN, that ends up being $1.54 CANADIAN with exchange and GST+PST. Puretracks is 99 plus tax -- which ends up being 40 LESS than iTunes at US prices.

BTW, Puretracks.com (the only Canadian online music store) sold their one millionth song in February. Here's a screenshot of Puretracks:



Kinda similar in its navigation to the iTMS.

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Here's a status report of online music retailing around the world:

http://www.ifpi.org/site-content/press/20040330b.html
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Yeah, I just read that AI article and some of it makes sense, but other parts don't. For example the comments like "CRIA officials cited Apple's need to iron out logistics like G.S.T. and exchange rates as a source of the longer than expected service delays" don't make sense since Apple already has these things ironed out in their online Apple hardware store. Same thing with this comment "As well as completing their agreement with us, they must also make licensing arrangements for the use of the recordings they will distribute, establish their infrastructure and billing system for Canada". The infrastructure, billing system is all there too I suspect. It's just the CRIA and CMRRA trying to point fingers at Apple.

But it sounds like iTMS for Canada is not too far away.
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Maybe Apple wants to unveil worldwide (Canda, Europe, Australia/New Zealand) at the same time? Or they are having problems getting all the licensees to agree on the same terms?
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I keep hearing the same thing in regards to governemnt regulation, gst, red tape, etc., holding back itunes in Canada. I zipped off a quick question to the CRIA and below is the response I got. Both CRIA and CMRRA are probably tired of getting questions about itunes so they're putting pressure on Apple. Hopefully, we'll see the itunes store soon!


Hi Mike,

Thanks for your email.

Unfortunately, CRIA has no say in when iTunes decides to launch in Canada.
It's my understanding that the launches of iTunes' and other U.S. based
companies (i.e. MusicNet, Napster) are taking longer than expected because
of their need to iron out logistics like G.S.T. and exchange rates, etc.
CRIA itself has nothing to do with their business plan.

I do know that iTunes has approached the publishers and they're currently in
final negotiations so we should expect news of their launch here in the near
future. For further information, you should contact the publishers'
association, CMRRA (www.cmrra.ca).

Regards,

Jennifer Hardy
Manager of Administration & Communications
Canadian Recording Industry Association
890 Yonge Street, Suite 1200
Toronto, ON M4W 3P4
Tel: (416) 967-7272 ext. 105
Fax: (416) 967-9415
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" ... Hmm.. I wonder if the songs will be 99 CANADIAN or 99 AMERICAN?? If it's AMERICAN, that ends up being $1.54 CANADIAN with exchange and GST+PST. Puretracks is 99 plus tax -- which ends up being 40 LESS than iTunes at US prices. ..."

I'm not sure why you think they would price the songs in US dollars. It's got nothing to do with anyone or any company in the USA.

You seem to be under the impression the that American music companies (and the RIAA) have something to do with it. They don't, and it would be illegal for Apple (or anyone else) to pay them rather than the Canadian music companies who own all rights to any music sold in Canada. We calls that Copyright Infringement.

Expect a made-in-Canada pricing structure, just like Pressplay. CDs have always been cheaper in Canada than in the US anyway; I don't see why this would be any different.
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