So... WHICH Sony is the iPod killer again?? & iTunes rip-off - Page 3

Macaholic · Sep 9th, 2005, 04:41 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Derrick
	30% of new cars in the US will offer iPod integration in 2006

Conspicuously absent: The US Big 3; Some other sleepy corporations.

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	As unbelieveable as the iPod nano is ... the most amazing part is that Apple was willing to replace the iPod mini in the process

It's like Seinfeld going out on a high.

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	I thought of the following slogan for Sony last night and thought I would share it: 1000 models. Impossibly complex.

LOL! Good one!

Derrick · Sep 9th, 2005, 04:42 PM

I thought of the following slogan for Sony last night and thought I would share it:

1000 models. Impossibly complex.

used to be jwoodget · Sep 9th, 2005, 04:48 PM

First sign of the apocalypse: Macaholic quotes a message that is posted after his.... (I know, I know, but dang, Macaholic, you have got to get up for a pee at some point...).

Macaholic · Sep 9th, 2005, 04:52 PM

LMFAO!

You should see me bend spoons with my mind!

macsackbut · Sep 9th, 2005, 05:23 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by joltguy
	That's ridiculous! I can't believe they could be so shameless. Blatant thievery! I mean, we're not talking about some fly-by-night here... it's Sony! They should certainly have the talent and the resources to do something more than a weak iTunes imitation. Its almost as though all of Apple's competitors in music actually aim for "slightly inferior to Apple", and then end up falling short of even that.

Exactly! I don't get it. Sure, Apple's a moving target, but there's a lot at stake here. I would have expected more out of the competition. Surely they realize that they have to think at least two steps ahead of Apple to stay in the game. Granted, that's a tall order, but there are a lot of smart people in this world, and not ALL of the geniuses are working for Apple.

Anyway, this IS a fun thread

Macaholic · Sep 9th, 2005, 05:44 PM

Quotes from a Sony exec in of the articles I referenced:

"it is Sony which first began selling music via the Internet"

Yeah. Too bad it sucked. (See? They -- and the others -- had their chance).

"We have a history of upgrading our brand value by proposing a new fashion and a new lifestyle."

Yeah. Like this:

That's a lifestyle I'll take a pass on.

And, his final quote:

"Apple is like Sony in the old days and we have a lot to learn from them"

Seems you already have learned some things:

Derrick · Sep 9th, 2005, 10:06 PM

I just discovered a very interesting read:

http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-to-studios/

Macaholic · Sep 9th, 2005, 10:50 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Derrick
	I just discovered a very interesting read: http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-to-studios/

Let's hope Hollywood got that.

I am pining for Apple to create a home digital media solution. When Apple announced the Intel move, I immediately thought about the future of home media consumption, that Hollywood will only pay ball if there's solid hardware based DRM, and that Apple would eventually want to be a part of that (I agree with Jobs about wee portable video players not being practical).

So, when Apple went Intel, with Jobs saying that IBM;s CPUs can't take us "where we want to go down the road" (Jobs' quote), I KNEW that he didn't just mean CPU clock cycles and low heat. The CPU will be the heart of the future of DRM, and Apple NEEDS to be in the game, lest they (and all us Mac users) get left at the digital media distribution train station.

and Intel's all over this stuff, it seems: their Pentium D CPU has DRM on it, and they recently announced a new line of CPUs, called "VIIV" that are designed for home media consumption. This is not an option for Apple to pursue.

here's an article on the VIIV:
http://www.betanews.com/article/prin...IIV/1124914743

here's a boring video of the recent Intel Developer Conference where they discuss the VIIV processor:
http://news.com.com/1606-2-5843033.html
(it's only about three minutes long)

As time goes by, there's no way I want a Windows Media Center system to be my next-gen "TV" and movie player. I want an Apple solution for the job!

Derrick · Sep 10th, 2005, 01:10 AM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Macaholic
	I am pining for Apple to create a home digital media solution. ... As time goes by, there's no way I want a Windows Media Center system to be my next-gen "TV" and movie player. I want an Apple solution for the job!

I couldn't agree more ... no one has yet bridged the gap between computer and TV ... I hope Apple is the one to accomplish this ...

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part

... I see Apple creating an Airport Express A/V type of device rather than another Media Centre type box. Another breakthrough would be a remote control that is simple, seamless and doesn't cost a fortune like a Crestron (or similiar) touchscreen.

Many audio component manufacturers are trying to get into the 'music server' arena ... the problem is many of them cost at least a few thousand dollars ... and all you really get is a hard disk and a remote. I have accomplished the same thing with an iMac G5, iTunes, Salling Clicker and a Palm T2 PDA ... touchscreen control, color screen, full control over my music library from my listening chair.

I have had a friend of mine who works for a high end audio shop over to check the system out and has said several times that my setup blows the doors off the functionality provided by these systems that are coming on the market from audio manufactuers ... the kicker is that I didn't have to spend nearly as much (and a Mac mini would have worked just fine too) ... and I have a full Mac to use to boot.

I think the only thing delaying Apple from introducing a media type device is simply getting sufficient video content into ITMS ... once that happens ... I am sure we will be ready with credit card in hand.

Chealion · Sep 10th, 2005, 02:14 AM

While I find the latest players Sony is coming out with rather unpleasant they do tend to have better battery life then most players out there.

Also, I'm curious how the new version of Connect can be a rip off of iTunes 5? iTunes 5 was released on Wednesday and well in a program like SonicStage you can't just change the UI to nearly represent iTunes 5 in less then 24 hours. Not realistically anyway. It may have been an attempt to cross SonicStage with the popular iTunes 4 look that happened to reveal what appears to be a iTunes 5 rip-off, but I doubt we can call Connect a true iTunes rip-off.