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Old Sep 9th, 2005, 03:17 PM   #11
 
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What's up with the Mighty Mouse? Did I miss a memo?
The first person that I know using it, has already had to return for an exchange. Waiting on others to see what will be happening.
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Old Sep 9th, 2005, 03:17 PM   #12
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The stores look great, but I still will only support smaller retailers. I still get better selection/services/prices from the small guy. There is only one Apple store in Canada, I don't think that cutting out the middleman in Canada will help in the long run.
I completely agree, I personally would love to support my local resellers before the Apple store that happens to drop in. But, it still doesn't deter the huge amounts of sales Apple is gaining just by having these stores in open view of the public. A LOT of resellers are not so good at marketing.

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Uhmm... the halo factor is helping sales, but I'm surprised at the lack of quality control from Apple lately. Everything from the new computers to the mighty mouse seems to suffer from this. I'm really surprised at all the tales from people who have had to return their units at least once...
I agree with you here as well.. Quality Control probably has deminished a little with Apple.. but, they're still out-gunning ANY other PC maker according to a recent survey.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1851525,00.asp

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Old Sep 9th, 2005, 03:22 PM   #13
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I completely agree, I personally would love to support my local resellers before the Apple store that happens to drop in. But, it still doesn't deter the huge amounts of sales Apple is gaining just by having these stores in open view of the public. A LOT of resellers are not so good at marketing.
Oh absolutely. I see them more as "outreach centres" to the huddled, unwashed masses Seriously though, they are a crucial NEW element in growing awareness about Apple's stuff -- and nobody designs their store better.
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The first person that I know using it, has already had to return for an exchange. Waiting on others to see what will be happening.
Any idea what the problem was? Just wondering what I should be looking for with mine, not that I've been having any problems.

But back to the topic at hand (as it is evolving in this thread). I've never been to an Apple Store, and here in Montreal we don't really have any great resellers. But I have to also say that my experience with the on-line store has been really fantastic for the most part. Now I have no idea how that compares with, say, Dell (I'm guessing Dell's pretty good in this department too), but it's all part of the Apple experience.

But I STILL don't see why other companies (especially Sony... sheesh) aren't getting this. Maybe it's because, the iPod aside, Apple is still a relatively small player in the computer industry, so nobody sees it as a real threat. And yet all indications seem to point to the fact that they do, in fact, see Apple as a threat. So why do they have so much trouble changing their corporate culture to compete? Is it simply that <i>Titanics</i> like Sony and Dell are too big to turn around that fast?
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The first person that I know using it, has already had to return for an exchange. Waiting on others to see what will be happening.
Love my Mighty Mouse. Will be getting another.
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And to boot, Sony released a "redesigned" -- make that "reverse engineered" -- Sony Connect PC program:


That's ridiculous! I can't believe they could be so shameless. Blatant thievery! I mean, we're not talking about some fly-by-night here... it's Sony! They should certainly have the talent and the resources to do something more than a weak iTunes imitation. Its almost as though all of Apple's competitors in music actually aim for "slightly inferior to Apple", and then end up falling short of even that.

I love how Apple keeps raising the bar on them too. They just can't catch up. As soemone in the press said, Apple has created a "moving target" for competitors in the music business with its constant iPod and iTunes upgrades.
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Any idea what the problem was? Just wondering what I should be looking for with mine, not that I've been having any problems.

But back to the topic at hand (as it is evolving in this thread). I've never been to an Apple Store, and here in Montreal we don't really have any great resellers. But I have to also say that my experience with the on-line store has been really fantastic for the most part. Now I have no idea how that compares with, say, Dell (I'm guessing Dell's pretty good in this department too), but it's all part of the Apple experience.

But I STILL don't see why other companies (especially Sony... sheesh) aren't getting this. Maybe it's because, the iPod aside, Apple is still a relatively small player in the computer industry, so nobody sees it as a real threat. And yet all indications seem to point to the fact that they do, in fact, see Apple as a threat. So why do they have so much trouble changing their corporate culture to compete? Is it simply that <i>Titanics</i> like Sony and Dell are too big to turn around that fast?
I find it's more like trying to catch the racecar that had a 10 minute headstart and lots of fuel with a good driver. Chances are unlikely he/she will be caught.

Apple was first out of the gate on this one.. with plenty of time ahead of the others. This leaves the others in the dust with the smell of freshly burnt rubber.
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I still say that Sony, Rio, and the rest along with the labels had ample chance to initiate such a wave for a few years before Apple got to work on it. They just don't know how to "Think Different™". And that's why we love the boys and girls of Cupertino
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I think many of the naysayers with respect to Apple's dominance in the digital music arena were swiftly silenced with the announcements of Sept 7th ...

- over 1,000 accessories for the iPod ... competitors - almost zero
- iTunes now on a cellphone - more models eventually for sure
- 30% of new cars in the US will offer iPod integration in 2006
- 1.8 million songs downloaded from ITMS per day (the last total I remember being mentioned was 1.25 million/day)
- at least 600 million songs downloaded from ITMS (10 million accounts x avg of 60 songs per customer)

As unbelieveable as the iPod nano is ... the most amazing part is that Apple was willing to replace the iPod mini in the process ... the pundits keep saying that competitors will eventually catch up ... the flaw in their argument is that they assume that Apple will stand still ... the iPod nano drives home what we have known all along ... Apple is a swiftly moving target.

I think this is slowly starting to sink in on Wall Street.
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I still say that Sony, Rio, and the rest along with the labels had ample chance to initiate such a wave for a few years before Apple got to work on it. They just don't know how to "Think Different™". And that's why we love the boys and girls of Cupertino
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I think many of the naysayers with respect to Apple's dominance in the digital music arena were swiftly silenced with the announcements of Sept 7th ...

- over 1,000 accessories for the iPod ... competitors - almost zero
- iTunes now on a cellphone - more models eventually for sure
- 30% of new cars in the US will offer iPod integration in 2006
- 1.8 million songs downloaded from ITMS per day (the last total I remember being mentioned was 1.25 million/day)
- at least 600 million songs downloaded from ITMS (10 million accounts x avg of 60 songs per customer)

As unbelieveable as the iPod nano is ... the most amazing part is that Apple was willing to replace the iPod mini in the process ... the pundits keep saying that competitors will eventually catch up ... the flaw in their argument is that they assume that Apple will stand still ... the iPod nano drives home what we have known all along ... Apple is not sitting still.

I think this is slowly starting to sink in on Wall Street.
Very true as well. Apple won't let themselves sit still ever... it's not their way. Innovating is the thing they do best.. I don't understand why anyone would think they would sit and wait for the rest of the market to stroll their lazy butts in.
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