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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 01:58 PM   #31
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Also.. what does it gain you, with ad networks and complicated cdn networks.. the data would be pretty meaningless to humans.

One thing I would like Apple to do is to add an auto reset for a given day of the month to go with my billing cycle.
Yes that would work. Also allow you to set some sort of alarm if you are coming close to max limit.

The problem I notice with Rogers there is no set 'day' they use to turn over billing cycle I found. But something like that would get you close.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 02:25 PM   #32
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That would sure be nice, and maybe have the ability to log the previous amounts and date set/reset.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 02:41 PM   #33
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You'd really want to see the source/destination IP for all of your internet usage? I can't fathom why, unless you were trying to snoop on someone. The amount of noise would be astounding, too. A single webpage of ehMac connects to tons of IPs, because of all the ads and other services embedded in the pages.

Telecom utilities are fast heading towards unlimited usage for all services. My phone service and texting are unlimited, as is my mobile data. I've had unlimited internet at home for almost a decade. Tracking usage is really a thing of the past.
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Also.. what does it gain you, with ad networks and complicated cdn networks.. the data would be pretty meaningless to humans.

One thing I would like Apple to do is to add an auto reset for a given day of the month to go with my billing cycle.
I want to focus on the top 20 IP addresses (actually hosts) by MB transferred. The OP had a spike in data usage that he felt was unwarranted. With this type of detail you'd be able to see where the data is coming from. Right now, you just have to take the ISP's word that you used the data. And pay for overage charges.

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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 02:44 PM   #34
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If you see the Wifi symbol you are on wifi, no cellular data used.

There are also settings that allow you to set which apps can use cell data and which can't.

Thanks, and that's what I thought.

But... I haven't had my Cellular Data enabled for over a week now on my older iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2, and I just checked its Settings, and it now says for Cellular Data Usage, Current Period = 355KB, not much I know, but still some usage, but even stranger is the fact that I did not reset the Current Period in any way.

It was last showing about 1.9GB. Strange.

Is there something else that can reset the usage or some way to tell when it was reset??

Wi-Fi is enabled and connected to my Apple Express and the wi-fi icon is showing at the top left of the screen.

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Maybe this could be one of the reasons I just came across:
"You can tap on System Services to see how much cellular data is used by system components that you can't prevent from using the cellular connection, like DNS services, Time & Location, Siri, mapping, networking, and such. ..."

My System Services is showing 349 KB.

So I'm guessing that all cellular use is not completely disabled when Cellular Data is disabled in the Settings???

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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 03:08 PM   #35
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I want to focus on the top 20 IP addresses (actually hosts) by MB transferred. The OP had a spike in data usage that he felt was unwarranted. With this type of detail you'd be able to see where the data is coming from. Right now, you just have to take the ISP's word that you used the data. And pay for overage charges.

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So lets say they say.. you used 1 gig of Netflix on the 15th. You say.. no I didn't.

Or they say.. you used 1 gig on the 15th. You say.. no I didn't.

You are at the same point.. your word against theirs. They take off the charge either way.

Also, internet traffic does not go by hostname. DNS is a separate processes. Good luck tying ip info to actual use. ISPs give you access to the Internet.. not access to each site.

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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 03:08 PM   #36
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Thanks, and that's what I thought.

But... I haven't had my Cellular Data enabled for over a week now on my older iPad 2 with iOS 7.1.2, and I just checked its Settings, and it now says for Cellular Data Usage, Current Period = 355KB, not much I know, but still some usage, but even stranger is the fact that I did not reset the Current Period in any way.

It was last showing about 1.9GB. Strange.

Is there something else that can reset the usage or some way to tell when it was reset??

Wi-Fi is enabled and connected to my Apple Express and the wi-fi icon is showing at the top left of the screen.

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Maybe this could be one of the reasons I just came across:
"You can tap on System Services to see how much cellular data is used by system components that you can't prevent from using the cellular connection, like DNS services, Time & Location, Siri, mapping, networking, and such. ..."

My System Services is showing 349 KB.

So I'm guessing that all cellular use is not completely disabled when Cellular Data is disabled in the Settings???
Have you tried to Reset Statistics unde Settings-->Cellular?

Do you have 3G enabled still? I think some data from carrier may be calculated here. Like Messages? just a guess on my part
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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 03:10 PM   #37
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So lets say they say.. you used 1 gig of Netflix on the 15th. You say.. no I didn't.

Or they say.. you used 1 gig on the 15th. You say.. no I didn't.

You are at the same point.. your word against theirs. They take off the charge either way.
Also, internet traffic goes by host. DNS is a separate processes. Good luck tying ip info to actual use. ISPs give you access to the Internet.. not access to each site.
And you saying they take off the charge each and every time someone calls in to dispute the data charges? I just don't think so.
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And you saying they take off the charge each and every time someone calls in to dispute the data charges? I just don't think so.
I previous poster said they were able to get the charges removed. I was just going by that.

My point is If they are going to take if off or not, them knowing the name of the service is not gonna change it one way or the other.
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Have you tried to Reset Statistics unde Settings-->Cellular?
Nope. It still says Last Reset: Never

But something sure reset it from what it had been saying for the Data Usage.

Edit: After enabling the cell data for a bit and then disabling it, it now says it was reset May 9. 2014. Really??? I sure haven't hit the Reset Statistics!!

[QUOTE= Do you have 3G enabled still? I think some data from carrier may be calculated here. Like Messages? just a guess on my part[/QUOTE]


Nope. My Cellular Data has been showing as Off for over a week+.

But out of curiosity I just turned in On briefly and then Off again, and now my Current Period is back to showing 1.9 GB
System Services is showing 20.6 GB
Uninstalled Apps which I hadn't even noticed before is showing 1.2 MB, whatever they are as everything I have is installed as far as I can tell and no updates showing.

Strange things almost every time I use my iPad 2 and as an old Mac OS user, I'm not used to this new iOS stuff that's just "different" as Apple likes it I guess. Or would that be "Jony" Ive and his crew???

Maybe he should go back and stick to heading up equipment design instead of attempting any programming leadership???
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Old Jul 23rd, 2014, 03:58 PM   #40
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I just realized that it was May 9, 2014 9:38 AM that I installed the SIMM card into my iPad 2, but why has it taken so long for the Last Reset to say so, as for months until now it had been saying "Never", and cell data had been enabled for some use. Not exactly exacting and up to date reliable info.

But maybe it finally updated itself correctly somehow and I guess I'll never know how or why it took so long.
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