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Originally Posted by CubaMark
The FBI defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.”
ter·ror·ism
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noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
It is a matter of semantics as is illustrated in the first line of the Wikipedia entry:
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Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.
Despite the FBI's definition, terrorism historically has always had a political motivation associated with the use of the term.
So is the killing of blacks by the Ku Klux Klan a crime or an act of terrorism and does it really matter that much as any act of terrorism is always a crime.
The FBI defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.”
It is interesting that for some time, many threw around the word 'terrorism' so lavishly. Now, they are suddenly keenly interested in the strict definition.
Basically, I think the confusion is that we like to title our different crimes so that we can categorize them to apply the law of the country. Terrorism is just a category of crimes.
Although, I'm not sure what categories Homeland Security uses.
Domestic Terrorism is the exclusive domain of the IRS although recently they have announced their intent to expand operations on a world wide scale.
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Domestic Terrorism is the exclusive domain of the IRS although recently they have announced their intent to expand operations on a world wide scale.
You do an injustice to all actual victims of terrorism by claiming the IRS to be terrorists and equating your situation to theirs... Fill out your forms and stop your belly aching.
Until you have suffered from real terrorism you just sound like a spoiled child... Get over it.
Such hyperbolic statements are just so much clap trap I don't know how you can expect anyone to take you seriously.
Last edited by screature; Aug 10th, 2012 at 11:56 PM.
Boy you can't even tongue in cheek around here without getting crapped on.
see quoted definition. Be sure to read that lest you receive another serious rebuke.
Did read it, hence the comment about the IRS.
35,000 suicides in the US every year. If only 1% of those individuals reached that total state of hopelessness due to actions of the IRS, then clearly the IRS is responsible for more US terrorist deaths than all other organizations combined. I would suggest that 1% guess is probably much less than half of the real number but lacking any statistics, I am trying to be extremely conservative here. To me being driven to suicide is in some ways worse than outright murder, as the suicide path probably involved years of helplessness and terror prior to the actual death. The other thing about an IRS suicide is that therapy or drugs cannot eliminate the cause.
FWIW I do find it fascinating and a little sad that some people can look at particular actions, which if perpetrated by Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China would earn instant and total condemnation. Somehow though, if the USA, Canada, Israel or... does the same thing it is perfectly OK. Evil is evil and needs to be labeled as such, not forgiven because it is our guys doing the dirty work.
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Did read it, hence the comment about the IRS.
35,000 suicides in the US every year. If only 1% of those individuals reached that total state of hopelessness due to actions of the IRS, then clearly the IRS is responsible for more US terrorist deaths than all other organizations combined. I would suggest that 1% guess is probably much less than half of the real number but lacking any statistics, I am trying to be extremely conservative here. To me being driven to suicide is in some ways worse than outright murder, as the suicide path probably involved years of helplessness and terror prior to the actual death. The other thing about an IRS suicide is that therapy or drugs cannot eliminate the cause.
FWIW I do find it fascinating and a little sad that some people can look at particular actions, which if perpetrated by Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China would earn instant and total condemnation. Somehow though, if the USA, Canada, Israel or... does the same thing it is perfectly OK. Evil is evil and needs to be labeled as such, not forgiven because it is our guys doing the dirty work.
Again more hyperbolic clap trap... no one makes someone kill themselves, that is an individual's decision, whatever their circumstances. Comparing the IRS to Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China where human rights were systematically denied and millions murdered for any resistance against the state or for just being of the "wrong" ethnic origin is just more hyperbole and rubbish.
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