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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #11
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There was a Gx1 body on Kiji for $350 - Almost grabbed it just to have second camera as GF likes to photograph as well and having two bodies and one set of lenses seemed sensible.

I understand your "spend" fear. Been eyeing a Leica

Leica D Vario-Elmar 14-150mm f/3.5-5.6 Asph. OIS - Review / Test Report



relatively small but hell 28-300!!!!! and then there is the price.

I see how good the shots can be with the Panasonic Lumix G 14mm f/2.5 H-H014 and I want to get something in the mid-range with that lens quality.
This user review came to the conclusion the 14 was very good.
Micro 4/3rds Photography: Comparison: Lumix 14mm vs Lumix 20mm pancake lenses

quick and silent and very good value - at $175 I'm very pleased - even shooting one handed in awkward situations the results are very satisfactory. Bus moving at 30 kph shot through the window in relatively low light - was quite surprised by the detail on this Swiss white elephant awaiting a deep pocket owner in Norway.
Would have been hopeless with the point and shoot but on these "sampling the area" trips it's flexibility and AF speed is very welcome.



The long lens I'm okay with - I recognize I cannot afford the top end there but that 45-150 LUMIX G VARIO 45-150mm F4.0-5.6 ASPH Mega OIS that is awfully tempting.



Right physical size for my purposes and very good reviews. I'd carry this on the camera for most shooting in Aus from the motorcycle. - I can always slip the pancake on and the save the 300 for birding as it's really a handful shooting from the motorcycle.
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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 08:12 PM   #12
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A large local camera retailer is rumored to have a big sale on a number of cameras this week... like the Canon T3i and T4i....

I picked up a Panasonic FZ200 and it has pretty good low light performance. Here are some samples on Flickr.

FZ200 test shots
FZ200 - a set on Flickr

FZ200 vs 5D MKII
FZ200 vs 5D MKII - a set on Flickr

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FZ200 Night Photos - a set on Flickr
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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #13
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I picked up a Panasonic FZ200 and it has pretty good low light performance. Here are some samples on Flickr.

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Those are great pics, Niteshooter. When I first saw the specs for the FZ200, my heart went piter-pater. It's the direct descendent to my FZ20 and it looks impressive. BUT, I gave up the bridge format (weight, size) when I retired the FZ20, and I don't think I'm going back to it.
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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #14
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Right physical size for my purposes and very good reviews. I'd carry this on the camera for most shooting in Aus from the motorcycle. - I can always slip the pancake on and the save the 300 for birding as it's really a handful shooting from the motorcycle.
Ahh, lens envy - There's nothing like chasing the ideal of small f's, long fls, top quality glass and beautiful workmanship to keep me looking-thinking-justifying-purchasing. It's a particular affliction of mine and a reason, for me, to stay with fixed lens cameras. It's a harsh and very effective cure.
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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #15
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Given what it used to cost it's not all that expensive in the moderate end thos some of the lens are breathtakingly $$$.

and there is a reasonable resale opportunity. The fact there are skilled pros and amateurs willing to take the time to in depth evaluate products is very reassuring as well.

For instance I had wondered at the 20 mm version of my 14 pancake but it is 250% more $ and a good analysis showed me why I like the one I have so much and that the extra money spent on the 20 mm would not get me much of anything for my purposes.

Given the travel I'm doing and the expense of that - having decent tools for the kind of shooting I want to do - basically point and shoot with fast AF and a decent array of lenses for the various conditions - so far don't find it bad but as you say it takes some discipline to avoid the lure of the "next big thing".

I am glad I opted for the more expensive gx1 only because of the size and it puts me current tech for a while instead of in catch up mode and with the addition of the EVF completes the kind of camera I was looking for.

The camera is far better than the operator so lots to learn.
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That Leica 14-150 sure looks like it's built like their M lenses, that might be nice on the new G5. Wish I'd seen it when I was lens hunting on B&H, doesn't show up under their Mirrorless camera lens search only as a direct hit. Looks like the price dropped $300 but it's now showing back ordered.
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Those are great pics, Niteshooter. When I first saw the specs for the FZ200, my heart went piter-pater. It's the direct descendent to my FZ20 and it looks impressive. BUT, I gave up the bridge format (weight, size) when I retired the FZ20, and I don't think I'm going back to it.
Thanks! I'm downsizing as well but that's from a DSLR kit, my back is starting to tell me that lugging this much stuff around is not making it happy.

The LX7 looks like quite the camera but it seems to there is no end to any of this!

Henry's is having a big sale starting tomorrow, they are knocking the prices down on a lot of popular gear like the 7D, T3i, T4i and the FZ200.
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As I read all the posts, and think "out loud" it looks like the LX7 is the camera that suits my wishes. But, I'm not ready to jump. Perhaps I will be tempted by an interesting sale price.
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You guys know that what you really really want is this...

LEICA STEIFF TEDDY BEAR w/IIIF MINOX USED | eBay
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LEICA STEIFF TEDDY BEAR w/IIIF MINOX USED | eBay
I'm not so sure about the camera, but I'll certainly go for the teddy!
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