Location: Aylmer (Gatineau) across the river from Ottawa
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Well, he actually keeps quite busy, and he charges top dollar for his stuff. So he must be doing something right. Not all of it is sales of his own prints, mind. He'll do portrait work for Bay St. firms and various magazines, but in that case he's naturally not printing up the work, he's selling the rights. But his own images? He's built his own meticulous printer profiles and prints what he sells. Clearly it's not a model everyone can live up to, and he's fine with that. I imagine he prefers it that way - it gives him an edge over others who are content to let someone else do the printing.
But in the main he's right - if you want maximum quality control over your own work, learn to print it up yourself.
I'm sure he is doing something right, but you don't need to be a great maker of prints to be a great photographer. If you aren't a great "printer" what you do need is to have the vision of what you want and be able to translate it to someone who is a great maker of prints.
Maximum control perhaps... but he is wrong in saying that if you don't print your own work somehow that makes you an amateur or a hobbyist/'"shuttter bug" and not a real photographer, especially in the digital era.
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Let’s not get stuck on semantics. Anyone who uses a camera is a photographer, and like any human enterprise, some of us practice the art minimally, others maximally, some for personal use, some for profit. Hopefully, we all enjoy it, and some of us like sharing our enthusiasm and pictures.
Is someone who plays two-finger “chopsticks” on a piano a musician?
Kleles: understood, don't mean to sound like an elitist. And yes, two-finger chopsticks can be wondrously musical indeed. No question!
By the way, I don't print my own stuff - I just don't print, period - apart from work, I mean. But then again, I'm not a pro photographer. What I do for a living incorporates it, certainly - but it's a rather soupy welter of creative things, of which photography is but a part. I'm just saying that there are different definitions of photography floating about - perhaps now more than ever. Instagram, anyone?
Screature: I told you my friend is cantankerous and holds strong opinions, especially ones on would-be, self-proclaimed "photographers." It's his right to dismiss many shooters as mere hutterbugs - just as it's your right to consider his opinion ridiculously offensive.
Location: Aylmer (Gatineau) across the river from Ottawa
Posts: 16,193
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Originally Posted by Max
Kleles: understood, don't mean to sound like an elitist. And yes, two-finger chopsticks can be wondrously musical indeed. No question!
By the way, I don't print my own stuff - I just don't print, period - apart from work, I mean. But then again, I'm not a pro photographer. What I do for a living incorporates it, certainly - but it's a rather soupy welter of creative things, of which photography is but a part. I'm just saying that there are different definitions of photography floating about - perhaps now more than ever. Instagram, anyone?
Screature: I told you my friend is cantankerous and holds strong opinions, especially ones on would-be, self-proclaimed "photographers." It's his right to dismiss many shooters as mere (s)hutterbugs - just as it's your right to consider his opinion ridiculously offensive.
And so did I from the beginning... as I said:
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Max while I know where your friend is coming from...
Agreed...
The way I think of a forum is it is supposed to be about debate and refinement of thought... or at least it is at the best of times... other times it is just about ranting and railing.
I thought I was doing the former with my posts or at least it was my intention. If it was understood by you to be otherwise I apologize for my lack of clarity.
But just as a side note... Andy Warhol once stated he wished he could be a machine... I think this is a very relevant statement to this particular discussion...
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pure hobbyist here.
for family archiving, memory captures.
I keep saying I'm going to get out more and shoot yet I never do
But I sure enjoy when I do.
load them in Aperture and keyword
showcase on AppleTV
I rarely print anything. More from not taking the time then anything.
I'm also going back through my Grandma's photos and all of my Moms to create a comprehensive photodatabase for our family. It's taking a long time, but also fun remembering the moments and folks.
Neat to see a file structure from 1972 to now and about to add in from the 1920s to 72.
I'm also going back through my Grandma's photos and all of my Moms to create a comprehensive photodatabase for our family. It's taking a long time, but also fun remembering the moments and folks.
Neat to see a file structure from 1972 to now and about to add in from the 1920s to 72.
I'm thinking of doing the same with older family pics and putting names to the faces, with my mother's help. I assume, keebler27 that you are scanning the old photos. What settings (colour vs BW, resolution, etc) are you using on the scanner?
I'm thinking of doing the same with older family pics and putting names to the faces, with my mother's help. I assume, keebler27 that you are scanning the old photos. What settings (colour vs BW, resolution, etc) are you using on the scanner?
I'm using the slides and negatives at 2000 DPI.
Paper photographs at 1200.
I colour calibrate my monitor with a Spyder Pro3.
I find checking the white balance while scanning helps correct the images quite a bit.
Then I boost the saturation a bit as it seems the photos have faded a bit.
It's a great project to undertake. It takes time, but I also recommend using either Lightroom or Aperture or maybe another program which allows you to slap the keywords right into the metadata. Tagging with faces and names is great, but also being able to type in "Brian's 4th birthday" or "Fishing Trip 1998" right to the data is fantastic. I'm being really nerdy about it lol
My approach is: if someone in my family imports this photo or checks the information on it in Preview etc.., will they know exactly who's in it and/or what it's about
I have heard from others, also, that it's a painstaking process. A friend started copying his slides when he retired 5 years ago, and his project is ongoing! I'm in line to borrow his slide copier, but it won't happen soon. I can start with the photos, though. Entering names/dates/events is important. I don't know the subjects in many of my mother's photos (some are 75 yrs or older), and she doesn't remember all the non-family people. They become just "old pictures."
I have heard from others, also, that it's a painstaking process. A friend started copying his slides when he retired 5 years ago, and his project is ongoing! I'm in line to borrow his slide copier, but it won't happen soon. I can start with the photos, though. Entering names/dates/events is important. I don't know the subjects in many of my mother's photos (some are 75 yrs or older), and she doesn't remember all the non-family people. They become just "old pictures."
No problem.
It can be painstaking, but I toss on some music and chip away.
Working on an another Apple book for the wife for upcoming birthday milestone. Problem is that last half of our married life is digital, fist half is print photos, so now I'm having to take digital photos of the prints, which of course end up being lower quality Instagram-like images than the originals. And I worry about both the prints and digital images degrading before the next generation discovers them.
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