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Old May 5th, 2010, 10:34 PM   #71
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

First, how is adobe, preventing anyone, from embedding video how they wish? Certainly adobe readily adopted H.264 as a codec to play in flash player so it could be played outside the flash player.

If, and as if, video is the main issue. The use of flash, for video, initially took off, because there -was no- other way at the time of embedding so well. Hence sites like youtube etc. taking off the way they did.

Adobe isn't trying to force apple to force it's users to use flash for video, it simply wants the ability, to have it's player downloadable to the OS.

Users can choose how they video just like they can on their pc.

Now before the fanbois trolls crap themselves silly, I'm really not trying to be very biased here.

I firmly believe the flash player as it stands should remain -off- the iphone/ipad until a decent player is released. But should adobe release a good player, then apple keeping it out is no different than the anti competitive actions of microsoft
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Who says that Apple will NEVER allow Flash? Maybe if Adobe releases a functional version, it can be an App.
But right now (and always) Apple focuses on Quality. And us consumers really appreciate that. I do not want Safari crashing because some guy thought Flash would make his website "cooler".
Remember how many sites we avoided 10-15 years ago because people thought rainbow coloured blinking text was "cool", sure it never crashed the browser, but people take note of annoying things, like apps crashing. The average user doesn't know it's Flashes fault (MOST people don't even know what Flash IS (MILLIONS of people think "Google" is the browser!)) So if an app crashes, especially Safari, a native Apple App, they will blame Apple, and not Flash.
So Apple is in the right here. I don't want my name tarnished because of some other company either.

And P.S.
If someone that knows what Flash is and really really wants, they have other options.
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Scribd tells their story of switching from Adobe Flash, to HMTL5.

Scribd explains this using comic book format. Fun!

Excerpt:
Why the change from Flash to HTML5?
It all started when we wondered;
"Why do you need a special application to read a book, a magazine, or a presentation?"


See full feature here.
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Or maybe this is the real reason Steve Jobs hates Flash ...

Adobe Flash demo crashes Nexus One Android phone repeatedly or doesn’t work at all

Excerpts;
"It is starting to look like Adobe's plan to move away from Apple land and into the world of Android might run aground."
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... "Then, he (Ryan) pulled up the same thing on his Nexus One. The site's progress bar filled in and the 3D world appeared for a few seconds before the browser crashed."

"Apparently Ryan said 'Whoops! Well, it's beta, and this is an intense example - let's try it again,'" Farrell reports. "He tried it again and got the same result."

Farrell reports, "So he said to the audience, 'Well, this one isn't going to work, but does anyone have a Flash site they'd like to see running?' A wag shouted out Hulu and Ryan sheepishly said, 'Hulu doesn't work.' ..."


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Or maybe this is the real reason Steve Jobs hates Flash ...

Adobe Flash demo crashes Nexus One Android phone repeatedly or doesn’t work at all

Excerpts;
"It is starting to look like Adobe's plan to move away from Apple land and into the world of Android might run aground."
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... "Then, he (Ryan) pulled up the same thing on his Nexus One. The site's progress bar filled in and the 3D world appeared for a few seconds before the browser crashed."

"Apparently Ryan said 'Whoops! Well, it's beta, and this is an intense example - let's try it again,'" Farrell reports. "He tried it again and got the same result."

Farrell reports, "So he said to the audience, 'Well, this one isn't going to work, but does anyone have a Flash site they'd like to see running?' A wag shouted out Hulu and Ryan sheepishly said, 'Hulu doesn't work.' ..."


Full Article Here
Yup. 'Cause that's never happened to Jobs.

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


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Rotflmao

Someone somewhere else said something like, remember when microsoft had that blue screen of death at that demo, and we woke up the next day and apple had like 95% of the marketshare?
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Yup. 'Cause that's never happened to Jobs.
Cute! And humbling. "It's pretty awesome when it works."
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I just read today that android phones are outselling iphones in the US now.

I'm telling yous. This war, is just about to get interesting. Flash, is merely a sideshow.
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I just read today that android phones are outselling iphones in the US now.

I'm telling yous. This war, is just about to get interesting. Flash, is merely a sideshow.
Take that one with a grain of salt. When we get to one particular model from one particular manufacturer that runs the Android operating system outselling the single-model single-vendor iPhone model, and it's not during a "buy one, get one free" style promotion, let me know.
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Take that one with a grain of salt. When we get to one particular model from one particular manufacturer that runs the Android operating system outselling the single-model single-vendor iPhone model, and it's not during a "buy one, get one free" style promotion, let me know.
and why does that suddenly matter?

It's about the platform baby! I've said all along google i the one to watch in this game, and I'm telling you, this, is just getting started! Strap on yer seatbelts, you ain't gonna like the next couple years, trust me.
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