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Old Dec 3rd, 2010, 01:37 PM   #561
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Well then I guess that means she's not "the average" user, right? I mean, surely she KNOWS what a browser is, then, right? Because, according to you, they don't know their arse from a hole in the ground.
I would rank her on the far-below-average user lol
And if I said open your browser, she'd have no idea what I meant.
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Old Dec 4th, 2010, 05:32 AM   #562
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To be honest, you don't have to know that something is called a browser in order to use it, just like you don't have to know the particular style of cheese in order to make a sandwich with it. I don't have to know all the parts of an automobile to drive one. It helps, but it's not necessary. That's why "average" users tend to work only at the high level of computer language, while developers know the low level lingo as well as the high level and everything in between.

Yo momma may not know the term "browser" but I'll bet she knows what Safari, Firefox or Internet Explorer are.
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Old Dec 4th, 2010, 09:47 AM   #563
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To be honest Elric I think the average computer user these days does know what a browser is as I think the average user has probably been using computers for 10 years or more now or they have grown up using them. Now in terms of the overall population the "average" person may not know what a browser is, but for the average computer user e-mail and the web are the most commonly used aspects of a computer and most likely the first things they learn how to use so I think they would be familiar with the term browser, IMHO.
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To be honest Elric I think the average computer user these days does know what a browser is as I think the average user has probably been using computers for 10 years or more now or they have grown up using them. Now in terms of the overall population the "average" person may not know what a browser is, but for the average computer user e-mail and the web are the most commonly used aspects of a computer and most likely the first things they learn how to use so I think they would be familiar with the term browser, IMHO.
Agreed, but to dabble in settings and cookies and what-not? I don't think so. And when something goes wrong, they still blame the entire machine, not the actual software/cause.
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Agreed, but to dabble in settings and cookies and what-not? I don't think so. And when something goes wrong, they still blame the entire machine, not the actual software/cause.
True enough of many people.
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It's a fact of life that your OS, browser(s), and a host of other software that accesses the internet are constantly plagued by security holes on a constant basis. Cookies are nothing new, in flash, an in browsers. It's just as easy to limit them in either technology.

As far as flash is concerned, it's rather like OS X in the sense that I haven't heard of anyone getting their macs hacked because of a security hole. Safari is regularly hacked every year, I still haven't heard of anyone getting hacked through safari (yet).

But it is good to be aware of these threats.
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I guess the announcement that Adobe will be abandoning Flash for mobile devices (see: Flash to Focus on PC Browsing and Mobile Apps; Adobe to More Aggressively Contribute to HTML5 (Adobe Featured Blogs)) pretty much kills off any pro-Flash mobile arguments. Only question remaining is what will be happening on the desktop, and that is something that will take time to play out. I personally belive that it will be a long, perhaps slow, or even very slow decline, with eventual discontinuation. Could be wrong though. My reason is based on developing for desktops only with Flash, or desktops and mobile devices with HTML5. Seems pretty clear and simple that HTML5 is the way to go, unless developers want to develop for two platforms vs. just one.

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actually dude, flash is fast becoming a very popular platform to develop for mobile. I've said that from the start, the plugin model isn't something adobe profits from, and the models are changing.
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Adobe To Kill Mobile Flash Starting August 15

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It has been just over two years since Steve Jobs wrote his "Thoughts on Flash" essay.
Jobs criticized Adobe because, "flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice...But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short."
Apparently Jobs was right.
In a blog post yesterday, Adobe addressed concerns that it would no longer support mobile flash on Android's latest operating system, Jelly Bean. The flash-maker confirmed previous news that they in fact will not support mobile flash but instead the company will focus on flash for PC.

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