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Old May 10th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #91
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it is an awesome phone. I have heard the incredible is, great (but maybe not 'incredible'...)

Great to see competition, something to make things interesting. Nokia's n900 is successful, and here's a prediciton, microsoft will copy apple when you least expect it.

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s shaping up to be a much tougher fight than I think some thought. I think they left the spectator stands a little early.
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Old May 10th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #92
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lol Nexus One is anything but a failure. It's an awesome phone, which was meant to show other companies how awesome Android could be and how a phone can be with Android uncrippled, and opened up. And some great phones are showing up, 2.1 updates are coming for other phones, etc.

I guess though that analysts would consider the N1 a failure because it didn't take the market by storm and obliterate everything else...

Just like the same analysts considered Apple a failure because it didn't own 90% of the desktop/laptop computer market I guess?


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There you go. For better or worse, success in these circles is largely defined by how widely adopted something is. Unless you're a techno-geek, chances are the general public has no idea what the difference between Android and Droid is, let alone have they heard of the Nexus One or catch the reference to Bladerunner in the product's name. It's like Sauron and Sauromon in Lord of the Rings; needlessly confusing.

I'm sure the N1 is a nice product, but Google botched the delivery of it by a) not promoting it on TV, like the Android phones, and b) offering little to no customer service for those who did opt to buy it. You only get one chance to make a good first impression. Google fumbled the ball, and unfortunately, that association will carry over for a number of potential Android customers.

So while the N1's performance or lack thereof is not directly tied to the success of Android, it does raise a red flag or two for anyone who's paying attention. And last I checked, Android phones can't do Flash yet either.
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android is on fire for growth right now. Google isn't a hardware company, like microsoft, and unlike apple, I'm not surprised they didn't handle the release very well.

It appears, no one cares about the "red flag" LOL.

As for flash, it's currently in private beta to developers. As I've said, I saw it run, and oh yeah it can very well do flash. Flash developers are chomping at the bit to start developing for the platform. -if- adobe comes though on a very efficient player, and cs5 has some major improvements as a great platform to develop on, it's looking pretty good in that particular arena I'd say.

So if you know how to do stuff for iphone, and do stuff in flash for the other 4 platforms, I'd say you're in a pretty good position.
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Old May 11th, 2010, 09:16 AM   #94
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It is great even for iPhone users that the Android is starting to do so well. Competition is good it will make Apple up their game.

If their were only Canon or just Nikon neither one would be as good as they are, they keep leap frogging over each other in the race to be the best. It's a good thing.
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The Flash Player demo on the Nexus One without crashes:

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


It looks promising - still waiting for it to actually ship.
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I also heard on twitter from guys who were actually there, that the demo that crashed, was not only totally -unplanned-, but the presenter candidly told them that the player was an outdated version. I suppose the blogger guy got his 15 minutes by leaving some key information out, sorta like what I tend to see other flash haters do in general.
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I also heard on twitter
Bahahahahahahahahahaha

"I read it on Wikipedia" too!
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Bahahahahahahahahahaha

"I read it on Wikipedia" too!
I doubt you did. It seems you don't read very much. Because you seemed to have missed the part about it was -first hand- reports from people who were there.

Funny how people desperate to prove I don't know what will believe one blogger who left key pieces of information out, over other online accounts, several in fact, of others who were there, who gave a more complete story.
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I thought the "flash on Android crashing" demo was actually just the guy hitting the home button accidentally? Anyone who's used Android knows the popup dialog that appears when an application crashes, and there was no such popup in that video...

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hey did you get your nexus directly from google?
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