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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 12:35 PM   #21
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a thunderbolt-expresscard adapter is $169. if you don't see value in spending $169 to use existing expresscard gear with a far superior connection with numerous advanced options then i don't know what to tell you...thats your call i guess.

it should also be mentioned that the $169 the adapter costs is less than the difference in price between the 15" and the 17"
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #22
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the thunderbolt-expresscard adapter is a bulky brick, and doesn't offer 100% compatibility (as is often the case with these kind of solutions).

It's nice that there is something to bridge the gap, but don't pretend it's the same thing as using the native interface.

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Results from testing the adapter were disappointing. About 40% slower through the TB adapter compared to the Expresscard/34 slot on my 17" MBP. This with Sonnet eSATA Expresscards.
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #23
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Video editors want native HD -.
I'm in a whacked out 17 just now and it's heavy but just a lovely workspace and everything is instant.

What the chat about dropping the 17 tells me is that there is a major chassis change and 1st gen of most of these changes should be poked and prodded for a year or so.
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 03:08 PM   #24
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yeah writing is on the wall for current body style for sure id say. its been the same since late 08. sooooo long in the tooth
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #25
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Its been that way for so long because it is a good design. I've never had a more solid, durable laptop. Hopefully its not just change for the sake of change. I'm going to assume that the new models will just be larger, more powerful versions of the Macbook Air.
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #26
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Pure conjecture on Mr. Ming-Chi Kuo's part. Oh, he did predict an end to the plastic Macbooks did the Apple aficionados not see that coming?!? I'm sure the vast majority of ehmacers did...

Frankly, I've grown a bit weary of analysts and the lazy hacks who write about them. So much is written about what Apple may or may not do it's become rather tiresome.

From a financial standpoint I'm sure Apple would love to do away with the 17" and have everyone who needs 1080p just to buy a 15" Macbook Pro, a 27" monitor and for the love of pete stay home! But they won't...

So I think the 17" Macbook Pro (along with the Mac Pro) will remain in the Apple line up a little bit longer. Just until something better comes along that the Apple marketing department can drive you into.

Oh and by the way Mr. Ming-Chi Kuo... I've analyzed the weather... it's going to rain.
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #28
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apple "analysts" are infuriating. they sit there guessing 52 times per year...theyre wrong like 49., but the 3 times they are right they think they're kreskin or something...

even a monkey throwing darts at a board would hit the bullseye once in a while.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 09:21 AM   #29
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ts been that way for so long because it is a good design. I've never had a more solid, durable laptop. Hopefully its not just change for the sake of change. I'm going to assume that the new models will just be larger, more powerful versions of the Macbook Air.
They are a delight and take a lot of abuse - one client dropped his 17" 4' to concrete while open and running - landed on the corner.
Destroyed the drive, dents in the screen alumn and corner of the unibody
Machine works fine.

Both of us were amazed at the really minimal damage considering it was dropped open and running onto to it's corner ( you know handing it off to another staff and both let go )

Pretty impressive abuse - not sure a large Air would have done as well as not as rigid.

Apple has an awfully good design for the MacBook Pro - just as for the MacPro.
Durable effective chassis need not be changed just for the sake of change, Let's hope Apple resists that - leaves room for two drives and perhaps 4 ram slots. The optical drive can go.
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Old May 7th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #30
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I would wonder what Steve Jobs would say by the statement of discontinuing the MBP 17"?? I own own and I am extremely happy with my decision coming from the PC world for a long long number of years. I wanted HD and larger screen estate, I don't I should downgrade myself to a smaller screen size given the DPI is much higher than a 17".

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