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Jan 17th, 2010, 01:04 PM
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flashing folder question mark...
So I have seen this before in my OS9 days. I had this happen to my MBP current 15inch version with SL. Everything worked as it should until yesterday. When I booted up I get the flashing question mark/folder icon on startup. Today, it starts up normal as it should. Is this a sign of a bad drive or something corrupt in there? What should I be checking or looking at now that it is running normal?
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Jan 17th, 2010, 01:10 PM
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The last time I had the question folder my HD was dead and would not come back to life. I think it may also be a corrupt system. Use Onyx to check the SMART status of the drive and also to check your system.Back up as well.
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Jan 17th, 2010, 01:14 PM
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I do have a time machine backup, so I wouldnt lose anything. Going to run onyx now and see what it says.
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Jan 17th, 2010, 01:14 PM
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The flashing "?" literally means that the computer can't find a 'blessed' system folder. If it can't find it where it found it before - ie. your harddrive - it implies something wrong vis a vis the harddrive. You may be able to correct this by booting from a machine-specific disk or a retail OS install disk, and running "Repair" in Disk Utility. On the other hand, your HD may already be toast....... Backup????
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Jan 17th, 2010, 01:50 PM
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This is the sort thing that DiskWarrior handles well assuming the HD is OK.
A free trick that is surprisingly effective is to boot from the original install disk, go in to the menu items and click on "Start-up Disk" (Might be "Select start-up disk"). Pick your regular HD. This is the equivalent of re-blessing the HD, that is telling the computer where to find the stuff it needs to boot.
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Jan 17th, 2010, 02:56 PM
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When this issue occurred yesterday, I tried holding down "option" to see if I could boot into my Win 7 partition. Nothing came up at all giving me an option to select my startup disk. Shouldnt that work even if OS X was messed up?
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Jan 17th, 2010, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wonderings  |
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When this issue occurred yesterday, I tried holding down "option" to see if I could boot into my Win 7 partition. Nothing came up at all giving me an option to select my startup disk. Shouldnt that work even if OS X was messed up? |
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Yeah, but it won't work if it is the drive that is messed up.
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Jan 17th, 2010, 06:07 PM
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You may try to boot the MBP holding the command S keys until you see a black screen with white text then type:
fsck -fy (don't forget the space between the k and the -)
then push on the RETURN key
The computer will scan the OS and check if there's a system software issue and will try to repair it. When the issue will be repaired you'll get the message:
The volume (HD's name) appears to be OK.
You could have to repeat the fsck -fy procedure until you get this message.
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Jan 18th, 2010, 10:44 AM
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This morning it did the same thing again. I just did a reinstall from time machine. Hope that fixes the problem. If it happens again I will try your suggestion GlassOnion. Thanks all.
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Jan 19th, 2010, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GlassOnion  |
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You may try to boot the MBP holding the command S keys until you see a black screen with white text then type:
fsck -fy (don't forget the space between the k and the -)
then push on the RETURN key
The computer will scan the OS and check if there's a system software issue and will try to repair it. When the issue will be repaired you'll get the message:
The volume (HD's name) appears to be OK.
You could have to repeat the fsck -fy procedure until you get this message. |
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This does not load, only if I have the sl disc in the drive, and then it checks the disk. Can this be a hardware problem or is it more likely to be software related?
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