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Old Jan 29th, 2011, 01:57 PM   #11
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Success!

Thanks so much digitdog, your suggestion worked like a charm (and seemed to be the easiest way too - no offense to anyone else). Web pages are snappier now too, didn't expect that. I never even thought of reversing the location of the routers. Although I did notice that switch on the G300N, but it just says on/off/auto, never thinking it applied to bridge mode. I guess that's what manuals are for

I still have one issue though, in that I now have two distinct wireless networks. Not a huge deal switch between them mind you, but certainly not seamless. I'm "assuming" the easiest way to fix this is to give my new router (now the main one) identical SSID, Authentication and Encryption as the old one (now the bridge)?

If correct, not sure how to do this exactly, but I suspect it's in the router's settings somewhere.
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Old Jan 29th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #12
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For anyone searching for something similar in the future, here's what I finally did to fix the double wireless networks issues:

1) Go into the new router's configuration settings - 198.168.11.1
2) Click Wireless Config -> Basic (11n/g/b)
3) Check & record original routers wireless settings (thankfully I had done this previously)
4) Set new router to match it's SSID, Authentication Type, Encryption Type & Key

Once done, click "apply". The router resets and 20 seconds later - voila! - one extended network. Yippee

Thanks everyone for your suggestions - I'm sure some of the other ideas would have worked too.
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Old Jan 29th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #13
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Glad to hear it worked. Wireless networking is voodoo to me.
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Old Oct 6th, 2012, 10:43 PM   #14
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Running Lion 10.7.4 using a Time Capsule as my main router off the modem. Everything is wireless from there, I have a few G4's with no Airport cards and have an Airport Extreme base station I would like to setup beside them in an extended network and hardwired to them. I have followed many ways people have suggested here and on the Apple forum but no matter what I do the Airport Extreme is not seen and I can't figure out what is wrong. I have downloaded airport utility 5.6 as was suggested on Apple's site and followed from there but nothing. Thanks.

edit- I guess I should point out I am using a newer macbook pro to do the setup, I tried setting up the time capsule manually, allowing the network to be extended, tried powering up the airport before and after this process, without a cable just wireless, then also with the airport plugged into the time machine. The airport is just not seen to be configured. What am I doing wrong or how should I go about doing it the right way? Thanks.

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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 02:13 AM   #15
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Hmmm... I think you have quite a challenge to do what you want to do, and I don't know if it's even possible, especially to connect with the G4's you want to access.

One thing that Apple suggests to avoid some hassles during such a setup is:
"If you have configured your Wi-Fi base stations in the past, it may be helpful to do a factory default reset of each Wi-Fi base station that will be part of the wireless extended network before you begin."
Wi-Fi base stations: Setting up and configuring an extended wireless network (802.11n)

Is there any way to get a wired ethernet connection that would save you a LOT of hassles and probably be more reliable and faster as well?

As a 'net poster suggests, "If you cannot run an Ethernet cable, then a pair of Ethernet powerline adapters might be able to send the "Ethernet" signal over the existing powerlines in your home. These devices will not work as well as an Ethernet cable, and sometimes are "iffy" depending on the wiring in a home."

Another possible option, we were able to get wired ethernet to our second floor "bonus" room that had NO possible later wiring access thanks to a commercial network wiring friend.

Luckily our 15 year our house we built was wired with multi-pair Cat 3 cable, as Cat 5 was not readily available in that era, and he was able to jumper and use the spare wire pairs in the phone junction box downstairs and added an Ethernet jack to the bonus room end and next to the phone jack the cable was originally wired for and to use. He then did the same thing downstairs that became the ethernet source jack connected to our downstairs router.

It works well, but I doubt that that cable supports super high speed giga e'net, but we don't really need it.

I hope this makes some sense.
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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #16
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Do a quick google search for setting up a WDS network. It should work between the TC and Airport Extreme. You will want to use the TC as the main, and the Airport as a remote.

I have a WDS up and running between my Airport Extreme And Airport Express. This allows me to extend the wireless as well as use the Ethernet port on the airport express for a wired ip camera.

I can give you more detail when I get home.... But as posted above the optimal solution would be to wire the two together.

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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 09:57 AM   #17
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Thanks guys, I have the TC in the basement utility room, opposite end of the home and main floor are the G4's. I was hoping to use G4's plugged into the AE as a wireless connection to the TC. If I need to hard wire the TC and the AE, I might as well just use a switch/hub by the G4's, that is if I could get a wire there through the finished basement. Looks like I will have to hunt down an Airport Card or two.
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Old Oct 7th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #18
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Do you have phone jacks at each place?

Maybe pull the cover and check what cable was used. As I said, our place was wired with Cat 3 four pair wire in 1997 which also got used for Ethernet connections.

Our wire is grey in color and it looks just like normal telephone communication cable but has four wire pairs and is Cat 3 rated.

Even if it's cat 2 it may still work for ethernet, but I'm not sure, especially if it's a long distance.
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I appreciate the help and idea but this home was never wired for phone in either area
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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 08:43 PM   #20
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It worked! I factory reset the AE and was going to factory reset the TM and the AE popped onto the airport utility screen. I followed the instructions I found on the apple website Wi-Fi base stations: Setting up and configuring an extended wireless network (802.11n) and when I plugged the G4 into the AE I had wifi!
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