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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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After installing Leopard on my internal drive, I booted back onto my other drive and found my entire Quicken application folder gone. I have a SD clone on my external drive from Tiger and was able to copy the app back over. This is rather disconcerting and leaves me wondering what else will go. Is this sign of impending failure?
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 02:10 PM   #2
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Wow. I just also found my entire Microsoft Office folder gone as well.
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #3
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Here's what I've figures so far. All Apps which were copied over previously and not installed with an installer, are gone. Anyone ever hear of this behavior?
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #4
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It's nothing to do with drive failure. I can't say what's going on there, but I can say with confidence it's user error related. No disrespect intended.

Based on the number and nature of your posts, I would say that you are in great need of a relationship with a local Mac guru or Mac User Group. Some quality one-on-one time with a person of "mad skillz" and good patience will probably make a huge difference.

(the above is NOT meant to suggest that you shouldn't continue to post here and ask questions -- of course you should!)
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #5
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When one moves app's around one needs to consider the each app may have /System/Library or /Library or ~/Library entries, further one needs to consider other file that may be involved. Moving apps around is a recipe for disaster unless you invest in learning what needs what.....

What I personally suggest, assuming quality backup, is to
  1. reformat your drive zeroing all data
  2. do an erase and install of Leo
  3. re-install each app with the latest Leo friendly version..
  4. Import your user folder
  5. only open files from inside the appropriate app. No double clicking the first time.
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #6
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Reformat and zeroing seems rather extreme. Zeroing data is only needed if you want to destroy recoverable data, it may in some instances help remap bad sectors on older drives. Other than that, file information is stored in the directory.
This seems to me, to a directory error, and the folder has gone missing.
If anything, fsck -fy would probably fix future recurrence. Moving apps around does not mean they will disappear, it just means that updates may fail to install properly.
When Diskwarrior 4.1 is out, it will fix your problem easily. You seem to have minor directory damage that may be fixed using fsck or even booting from the cd and running disk utility. Disk utility may say it cannot repair, but I would boot into single user mode and try fsck -fy 2 or 3 times before giving up and doing the Futureshop/PC approach of nuking your drive and starting over.
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Old Jan 27th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #7
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I never said I was moving Apps around. When upgrading to Leopard, there are some Apps that I copied over from Tiger rather than reinstalling from CD's. I can't see how that would cause any problems. I'm baffled how several Apps went missing. I just installed Disk Warrior and found there was 28% out of order on my OS partition. Not sure if that would have anything to do with it. Can't say I've ever encountered Apps gone missing like this.
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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 12:01 AM   #8
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It's nothing to do with drive failure. I can't say what's going on there, but I can say with confidence it's user error related. No disrespect intended.

Based on the number and nature of your posts, I would say that you are in great need of a relationship with a local Mac guru or Mac User Group. Some quality one-on-one time with a person of "mad skillz" and good patience will probably make a huge difference.

(the above is NOT meant to suggest that you shouldn't continue to post here and ask questions -- of course you should!)
2000 posts to your 900, and you can tell he's in great need of a guru, thanks for the heads up, bud.

Of course, these problems are all in our imagination...

So confident but can't point at anything specific....

End of vent at pompous twit, I've just gone through the same inane answers on another thread.

Here's what I've found since I had a similar experience. Some of the items are now in the "Previous system folder". It could be in the app folder or in the user's app folder. If so, you can move them over to app folder they should be in, in the hard drive. All the helper files, prefs, etc, are in the "previous system folder" too.
I found they worked better when they went (firewire) to another machine's drive (macbook) and then back into their right place. I don't know why, heck, I don't know why it screwed up in the first place. If it was user error, it was way too easy to make, not that there's any real choice on the upgrade.

PS. Once you open Quicken, go to updates. There's one available.

Respect.
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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 01:42 AM   #9
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Hmmm, I didn't read anything about an archive and install, but that would hide some stuff.

Never mind.

/steps back very slowly.
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Old Jan 28th, 2008, 10:38 AM   #10
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2000 posts to your 900, and you can tell he's in great need of a guru, thanks for the heads up, bud.

Of course, these problems are all in our imagination...

So confident but can't point at anything specific....

End of vent at pompous twit
bbbbbutttt....it's 900+ posts in less than two months! Surely that must count for something?
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