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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 03:34 PM   #1
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Wireless internet... router works but I can't get on the internet

I have wireless internet hooked up at my place (Rogers high speed modem with a Linksys router) and it was working on Saturday afternoon. Come Saturday night, when I turned my Powerbook back on, I connect to my wireless router (it instantly comes on) but when I start up Safari or Camino, I can't connect to the internet at all. Limewire as well can't connect either. My wireless worked flawlessly for a couple of weeks before this and I've had no issues so far like this.


Here's what I can tell you about my problem:

1). I can see my wireless network name and it connects automatically when I turn on the Powerbook. All the bars on the Internet connect light up too (full range).

2). I did a hard reset on my router, reconfigured all settings, reconnected everything again and I can still see my wireless router (it automatically connects still). I even did a hard reset on my modem too.

3). Checked all cables, connections, unplugged everything too.

4). All lights on the modem come on, including the activity lights, which still blink normally as per usual. All lights on the router come on too.

5). I did Repair Permissions as well to see if it would repair something too (didn't work).

6). Checked the setting in Network as well... everything seems to be the same as before (when it was working).

I think I have narrowed it down to the modem though... even though the lights are all blinking, when I connect my Powerbook to the modem directly (through a Ethernet cable), it still won't connect to the internet.

The problem, though, lies in the fact that my modem, while purchased outright from someone, is actually rewired to bypass my local cable company's high speed internet (erm, Rogers) and, therefore, I get it for free. So, unless I can take this modem to another apartment in my building to see if it works, I can't actually get my cable company to help out here.

Besides all that I mentioned above, is there anything else I should be checking? Anyway I can narrow down my that it's my modem and nothing else?

Thanks in advance for any help too... much appreciated.

-Dale
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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 04:28 PM   #2
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Ahem,

You want us to help you steal from your ISP?

I don't think so. Not this community. Perhaps elsewhere...
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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 04:34 PM   #3
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I think you already have determined that it is your modem. There is no such thing as a free lunch. I have seen these "UNLIMITED INTERNET" modems advertised on Craigslist and as great as it would be, these are a scam.
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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 07:11 PM   #4
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Sounds like they caught onto the scam and locked your hardware out of their system to me.
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Old Nov 7th, 2006, 12:03 PM   #5
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Stealing, while not cool, is a relative term in this case as I already subscribe to Rogers for my cable and digital channels to the tune of $75 a month. The only reason I chose to get a modem for the internet through someone else is because Rogers chooses to slow things down and because of the bandwidth issues and downloading capacities, I think my $45.00 a month would be wasted since I should be allowed to download as much as I want. However, people may see this totally different from me and, quite frankly, I don't blame them either. I do however think it's a total contradiction though if someone looks down on me for doing this and then "borrows" their neighbours wireless from time to time.

Aside from the moral and ethical issues with this (and I do know it's wrong too), do you think Rogers can detect this from their end? And, if so, how could they block it if I never subscribed to anything in the first place (my cable and digital services aren't affected at all).
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Old Feb 8th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #6
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Searching old posts looking for the "best way" to secure a wirelss router...

Every piece of hardware has a unique address attached to it called MAC address. Rogers could be blocking your address.

This is called karma; you stole interent service now you lost your money on the hardware. Earl Hickey can teach you all about it.

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Old Feb 8th, 2007, 08:07 AM   #7
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Aside from the moral and ethical issues with this (and I do know it's wrong too)
It is called Karma......
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do you think Rogers can detect this from their end? And, if so, how could they block it if I never subscribed to anything in the first place (my cable and digital services aren't affected at all).
The idea that someone can 'rewire' a modem so Rogers can't see it is absolutely ridiculous. You should have spent the money on a good book about network security. If it is on their network, they can see it. If it isn't one of their's they will know it instantly. Or at least their hardware will notice it - it may take a little time for a human to react (errors occur and they try to avoid cutting off legit customers) which is likely why you got service for a little while.

You weren't getting free service anyway - you were just not paying for it - which is theft of service for which you could be charged.

The legit clients are paying for the stolen time and for the security scrutiny necessary to look for it and the staff necessary to cut you off. Which is partly why rates are higher than they might be otherwise.

You were freeloading and your kind cost the rest of us money.

There is a saying: "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".

Your arguement is NOT with Rogers, it is with the criminal who sold you the modem, and with yourself for participating in a criminal act.
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because Rogers chooses to slow things down and because of the bandwidth issues and downloading capacities, I think my $45.00 a month would be wasted since I should be allowed to download as much as I want.
It is called "terms of service". You are free to go elsewhere for what you want, rather than stealing it because you don't like the terms.
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I do however think it's a total contradiction though if someone looks down on me for doing this and then "borrows" their neighbours wireless from time to time.
I, and I am sure many others here, do not appreciate the tangential accusation that we also steal service. I don't. Never have. Never will.
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Old Feb 8th, 2007, 11:38 AM   #8
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just becasue you pay Rogers $75 a month for cable doesn't mean squat...I give Rogers $200 a month for cable, interent and cell phone; by your logic I should be able to walk into a Rogers videostore and grab a handfull of dvds...

anyone know any good releases at rogers?

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