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Old Oct 6th, 2005, 08:41 AM   #1
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Any comments about whether there is anything to choose from between Sonnet, Powerlogix, etc. cards for a sawtooth? Is one better than another? Any that should be avoided?
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Old Oct 6th, 2005, 08:55 AM   #2
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I have a 350 AGP 'sawtooth' I upgraded to a 1.2Ghz from Macdoc. I think it is an OWC card. I also upgraded the video card to an ATI 8500 which I don't think is availble any longer. Cost me about $650 almost a year ago for both. Well worth it, IMHO. Only took about 20minutes to do the 'surgery'.

Give him a phone call and see what he has.
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Old Oct 6th, 2005, 09:08 AM   #3
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Any comments about whether there is anything to choose from between Sonnet, Powerlogix, etc. cards for a sawtooth? Is one better than another? Any that should be avoided?
I bought a 1.0 ghz Sonnet upgrade for my Sawtooth AGP from these people:
http://www.macdirect.ca/p/go/sonnet-...sors.asp?menu=

The upgrade works great.
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Old Oct 6th, 2005, 09:33 AM   #4
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Yeah we have the 1 gHz with a 32 meg video card at $330 installed that has been popular.

The hot item is the 1.2 dual at $590 - zoom zoom. 1.8 dual is nice too but more than most need.
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Old Oct 6th, 2005, 12:08 PM   #5
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The hot item is the 1.2 dual at $590 - zoom zoom. 1.8 dual is nice too but more than most need.
There is no such thing as having more than you need when it comes to the speed of a computer.
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There is no such thing as having more than you need when it comes to the speed of a computer.
To a degree tho the return of speed for the dollar may well be in other areas - ie a faster video card with the 1.2 DP might be money better spent - BUT it does depend on the task.

Speed is not just processor. A 1.8 DP with 256 RAM and the orginal drive will generally suck.
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There is no such thing as having more than you need when it comes to the speed of a computer.
That's actually exactly what I'm wondering about.

For every day ordinary bland computer use like web browsing, email and office applications, is there really a significant improvement.
I have been sitting on the fence on that one - was going to upgrade a 450M sawtooth to 1.2 Gig; didn't think going any higher would bring any improvement because of the 100 M system bus.
But then, when I use the new 1.42 Mac mini or the 1.25G G4 - it doesn't seem to run any faster on average. I still get the beachball occasionallt just like on the sawtooth. I suppose if a window opens in one second or 1/2 second is irrelevant.
Now the Mini and 1.25G G4 each has 512M of RAM, the sawtooth over 1G, that may make a difference as well.
The other option I was looking at is to buy a used 1.25G G4 and sell the 450M one I have. I figure the difference would be in the same ballpark as a 1.2G upgrade and I would get a faster system bus, the RAM is better and cheaper and the video is also better. But then again - I have never had the slightest problem with my sawtooth...so am I trading in a solid stable machine with something maybe not so solid.

End result so far is to make the easy decision - do nothing.
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To a degree tho the return of speed for the dollar may well be in other areas - ie a faster video card with the 1.2 DP might be money better spent - BUT it does depend on the task.
True. But I was thinking more of bragging rights actually.
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MacDoc, what's your experience with the different processor choices? How would a 7455/256KB/2MB compare to a 7447/512KB/0 with the 100/133 Mhz bus machines?
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Ugh caches are always tough to judge.
I'd say in the music end the 2 mb cache creates less chance of timing isses where as for straight processing ala video the differences would be marginal.

Given the bottlenecks elsewhere I'd say the later chips would be doing some thumb twiddling anyway.

Getting down to pretty fine differentiation and a potential wide difference in respose depending on the nature of the use.
Single use may favour the 7447 512 while multitasking especially with music favour the extra level of caching the L3 represents.

No question the 512 "feels" quick.

I can tell you personally a dual 1.8 upgrade is a serious machine and will not disappoint.
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