Beginner HTML Blues...

davidslegend · Jan 18th, 2005, 10:09 PM

Hi,

I feel really challenge...I started working out of a SAMS Teach Yourself in 21 Days and can't even do the beginning example.

It says to download BBEdit Lite but, of course that isn't avalaible so I am currently downloading TextWrangler which is Free as well. In the mean time I tried to make a this simple html document in Appleworks, save it with a .html tag as a "text" document as the book insists and open it in Safari.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " - //W3C/DTD XHTML 1.01Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/transitional.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>David's Sample HTML Page</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Ths is a realish HTML Page</h1>
</body>
</html>

I know I am at the beginning level here but, I wasn't able to save this document in Appleworks....perhaps because I called it: Firsthtml.html and saved it as a text File. Appleworks would save this document in the finder but, when I went to open it or reedit it wouldn't have a name over the document other then: "Untitled.xp".

Second, question is which HTML Editor do you use?

Thanks for helping out.

Best Regards,

davidslegend

:cry: :p

yatko · Jan 18th, 2005, 10:34 PM

Any text editor but save the extension as *.html.

Since OSx is Linux like can you install any linux apps?
Quanta Plus is a great Homesite like app(even better)

http://quanta.sourceforge.net/

Also since you are beginning, start with a good foundation try to absorb what is in these pages:

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/

khummsein · Jan 18th, 2005, 11:36 PM

i use <a href="http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/">SubEthaEdit</a> because it's free and...I like it. I don't have any need for the collaborative editing but that's gravy i guess...all i really need is syntax highlighting & web preview is pretty nice.

textedit will also work, and i'm sure textwrangler is pretty good too.

<a href="http://www.w3schools.com">w3schools.com</a> has a bunch of free online tutorials and their reference is really nice because there's an online editor where you can try stuff out.

good luck...

as far as your example goes, you need a

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"

with an opening brace (less than sign before the exclamation point) before your line but i suppose you typed that in and the board software tried to do something with it. (doesn't even work in the CODE braces???)

PS., I'm assuming you want to learn html & css, and don't want to use a WYSIWYG editor. Otherwise i think there's plenty out there...

ArtistSeries · Jan 18th, 2005, 11:38 PM

You may want to try a free trial of Dreamweaver - you can have a quote and visual view at the same time. This will help you see what you are doing.

BBedit is still widely used as an HTML editor - but almost any text editor can do.
PageSpinner is a good beginner tool. And I'm sure others will have suggestions....

Chealion · Jan 19th, 2005, 12:57 AM

I agree with khummesein, get SubEthaEdit. I use it for all my web developing needs, plus if you ever need help it is possible to get someone to jump in and help you in the document in real time! Just whatever you do, remember that font tags and table abuse are bad. Use CSS instead.

Another good place to look at more advanced concepts using CSS is <a href="http://alistapart.com">A List Apart</a>. It can be a little daunting at first, but HTML and CSS are rather simple and easy to pick up. It's just a matter of taking your ideas and coding them.

skinnyman · Jan 19th, 2005, 04:13 PM

I learned the basics of html pretty quickly from Pagetutor.com. It's pretty funny too

It's well organized and pretty comprehensive. I'd highly recommend it.

davidslegend · Jan 19th, 2005, 07:26 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Chealion
	I agree with khummesein, get SubEthaEdit.

Hi, Thanks again for your help! I just looked at SubEthaEdit and it's OS X 10.3...I am still using Jaguar.

I downloaded Wrangler and it says: "The application cannot be launched because it is incompatable"? Maybe it requires Panther too. The other suggestions like "www.w3schools.com" are amazing.

I've got a dreamweaver demo with this book from the library but, I was just getting into the very basics-following the books suggestions to get BBEdit.

<html><Body><h1 align="center">Thanks again for all your help guys!!!
</h1>
<hr>
</body>
Still looking for good beginnings here....Hope I can learn this stuff well!

Regards,

davidslegend

Chealion · Jan 19th, 2005, 09:15 PM

davidslegend - The older version of SubEthaEdit (1.1.5) runs on Jaguar. However, you'd have to find someone who was also running SubEthaEdit 1 in order to work together with you.

I couldn't find a download link, so I uploaded it so you could grab it. Website

And yes, Text Wrangler needs 10.3.5 or newer to operate.

davidslegend · Jan 20th, 2005, 10:46 PM

Chealion,

Thanks, for the link!

I don't have SimpleText on Macintosh system which is suppose to work well with writing html. Why don't I have it in my Applications folder preinstalled?

Well, anyway as we speak I'm getting a download of your suggested HTML editor!

Cheers!

davidslegend

CubaMark · Jan 21st, 2005, 10:00 AM

David,

SimpleText was the basic text editor under OS 9 and previous.

In OS X, it has been upgraded and renamed as TextEdit. You'l find it in the Applications folder.

Good luck!
M