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Old Dec 20th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #11
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Login items are: iTunesHelper, Dropbox, and Android File Transfer Agent. Would one of those cause an issue?


Remove them restart the Mac and check.

I would suspect Dropbox and/or the Android stuff the most possible.
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Yup Patrick, I'd suspect Dropbox, and Android File Transfer Agent as the usual suspects too. BUT:

Your're not streaming iTunes from that Mac are you, jlhopes?

Try turning off Bluetooth for awhile. Possibly iTunes helper is waking your Mac then...

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Network activity that uses the Wake on Demand feature. Examples of network activity include iTunes sharing,
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Old Dec 20th, 2016, 05:23 PM   #13
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Basically iTunes helper just automatically opens iTunes whenever an iPod or similar Apple device is plugged in.

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Exactly. Just enough to keep a Mac from sleeping...

We're not talking plugged in here, but within WiFi or BlueTooth range. 2016 here, remember?

WakeOnLan, WakeOnPan, WakeOnWiFi, WakeOnBluetooth... You name it...

See what I mean?
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Thanks again for all the suggestions. I'm not using iTunes for streaming, nor do I have any Apple devices that might be plugged in. I tried removing the other login items but it made no difference. Very strange, as it's such a small thing. But I guess I might just have to do a clean install anyway.
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Thanks again for all the suggestions. I'm not using iTunes for streaming, nor do I have any Apple devices that might be plugged in. I tried removing the other login items but it made no difference. Very strange, as it's such a small thing. But I guess I might just have to do a clean install anyway.

Try doing the old PRAM (now VRAM} and SMC resets;
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201295
When and How to Reset Mac SMC (System Management Controller) | OSXDaily
How To Reset Your Mac's SMC & PRAM – And Why

etc….

Plus, you might want to have a look at running the default auto settings of OnyX, but do use the correct version:
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx
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Plus, you might want to have a look at running the default auto settings of OnyX, but do use the correct version:
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx
Get Onyx from the real source - it's developer Titanium Software.

And as said, get the correct version for your OX installation, See developers note:-
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There is a specific version of OnyX for each major version of the system.
Use the specific version, and don't try to use a non-compatible version.
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Some random ideas, since the obvious stuff didn't seem to work:

Is there anything in console related to power management?
Is there a Time Machine backup still running or stalled?
Do you have Transmission, or a similar app running, which may be set to prevent sleep while running?
Do you have something like Plex Server running, where another device may be keeping your mac awake?
Is the behaviour the same both on battery and while connected to power?
Do you have the new iCloud feature (forget the name) where you documents and desktop are automagically sent to the cloud. If so are there any huge files, or frequently changing ones?

I mention the last one because my Wife had it turned on, and her Parallels VM was in Documents. It meant that iCloud was constantly syncing.
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