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Rogers Statement: Potentially tweaking plans for more Data

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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 02:35 PM   #31
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At this point I'm positive Rogers will at least adjust their data plans as they're SO MUCH worse than anything else in North America now that all of their competition has announced unlimited data for $30. Whether they go unlimited is yet to be seen, but I'm hoping they come to their senses and offer unlimited like everyone else.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #32
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I'm thinking about it...

Because it seems like for the first time ever, Rogers might actually be listening...
They WILL listen IF they hear the sounds of silence in their stores. No other way will work.

Those who think they can rush out on July 11th and expect a decrease in the future are delusional. Explain to me what incentive would there be to increase the value of the plans when there are thousands panting to get themselves hooked on a 3 year contract with the current rates? Teddy will be laughing himself silly and rubbing his hands in glee with all the idiots lined up to fill HIS wallet.

Do yourself, and everyone of us who wants an iPhone as well, a favour. Stay home on the 11th.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #33
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Yeah. It's just so much bad press that they have to change something. I don't know why they don't just GIVE US UNLIMITED. We'd all be happy, and this would all go away for them. It seems so simple yet they're just not doing it (yet, anyway). I honestly think they could get away with not even adjusting pricing or minutes or anything as long as they add unlimited data.

If you'll notice they've added 2 additional paragraphs on their iPhone site:

Rogers Communications - Wireless, Digital Cable TV, Hi-Speed Internet, Home Phone
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #34
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They WILL listen IF they hear the sounds of silence in their stores. No other way will work.

Those who think they can rush out on July 11th and expect a decrease in the future are delusional. Explain to me what incentive would there be to increase the value of the plans when there are thousands panting to get themselves hooked on a 3 year contract with the current rates? Teddy will be laughing himself silly and rubbing his hands in glee with all the idiots lined up to fill HIS wallet.

Do yourself, and everyone of us who wants an iPhone as well, a favour. Stay home on the 11th.
Thanks for the kind words...

I disagree. It's just the nature of the market and technology that prices will come down. (in microprocessors it's known as Moore's Law). Sure it might take 6 months, it might take 8 months, it might take 12 months, but you will get more for less. There is competition to drive this - maybe not in the GSM-space or the iPhone-space, but the mobility market is competitive enough that if the other two are offering reasonably priced unlimited data, so will Rogers/Fido And that's why they all have retention departments. You can bet that the deals they offer for retention will soon find their way into the general marketplace.

The best the "protest" can hope for is to accelerate the process, not start it.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #35
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By the way, here is a message from Elizabeth Hamilton on Rogers' research:

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There are several websites where you can find information on standard
wireless usage.
Of course, web pages vary in size depending how multi-media heavy they
are, e.g. more photos, bigger the size, so sites like CNN, CTV and Ebay
are media heavy, as well as sites that are optimized for mobile, such as
facebook, google, etc. Our math is based on 130Kb/page, which is the
average HTML size according to research. See link
The Average Web Page - Preliminary Results
And I believe if you review the Toronto Star archives, they're research
yielded similar results on or around November 26/27.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #36
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By the way, here is a message from Elizabeth Hamilton on Rogers' research:
There's a fatal flaw in this whole average webpage business: Most web pages suck.

Most web pages are home made pieces of crap made by people who know nothing about web design, and NOBODY GOES TO THEM! Most webpages that are VISITED on a regular basis by the general population are much larger in size than the average webpage. Therefore basing calculations on the average webpage is completely useless. Of course, if we had unlimited data like most of the rest of the world, we wouldn't even be discussing such trivial points.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:52 PM   #37
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Here is the followup to the article Ms. Hamilton mentioned..

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The size of the average web page has more than tripled since 2003. From 2003 to 2008 the average web page grew from 93.7K to over 312K , some 233% (Domenech et al. 2007, Flinn & Betcher 2008).
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #38
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What if it's a network thing? 3G or no 3G...the Bell network (CDMA) is still the fastest data network in the country and perhaps the less travelled (less customers) as opposed to Rogers.

Rogers keeps talking about how their network is the shyte, how it's the best thing since sliced bread. What if they gotta make you potential iPhoners pay shyteloads for your data cause they gotta fund more infrastructure. What would happen if all the millions of iPhone clients were to access their unlimited data on the network simultaneously.

Number of clients is a critical piece of the puzzle in any network. Rogers must know that they can't take everyone on the unlimited data train, so it's being given to those who can afford it.

AT&T...they got the infrastructure to take on millions; they got a cell tower in every neighborhood. Rogers...don't think they're that well spread.

I was discussing this with one of my clients who deals in Iridium satellite phones...he seems to think that Rogers may not have the hardware to back up the great iPhone invasion.

It seems to be a sound theory to me. At least the Rogers plans are more affordable than Iridium.
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:57 PM   #39
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Is anyone else disgusted that the flagship 'we're not happy' website (ruinediphone)has turned into a business venture. this website was the only reason we were getting media attention about this...and now they even sold out....their no better than rogers
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Old Jul 4th, 2008, 03:59 PM   #40
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Here is the followup to the article Ms. Hamilton mentioned..

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well on top of that, her original source was from October 2006. Good research.
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