The Andrew Carter thread

seymore · Nov 7th, 2005, 10:38 PM

I agreed to buy a g4 15" iMac for $630. He wanted the money by bank transfer, but I wanted a money order. Sent it off by courier, and it was returned "address unknown". But John Howard has yet to reply to my emails....

Here is the address he gave:
John Howard ( johnhoward66@gmail.com)
421 Alice
Rigaud PQ J0P 1P0
wanted to be paid by certapay
preferred not to have my freind pick it up, as he works nights.
No freight as he can ship for free from work.
And now he has my address, phone and email. I'll be watching for him. He'd do well to do the same.
I guess my question also includes his access to the banking info from those who agreed to use electronic banking to send him money.
He's a prick

HowEver · Nov 7th, 2005, 10:46 PM

People should sign up for "hyperwallet." You can use it through your existing banking service, and the other party won't know your bank account info at all. You get their email address, and then send it there via hyperwallet, and provide an answer to a "secret question."

Applelover · Nov 7th, 2005, 10:50 PM

What's going on with Emad, aka: Andrew Carter? Can someone who's been scammed give a status update on any progress being made? I hope the rcmp isn't just sitting on there asses on this one....Enough people have been ripped off for some heavy action to be taken against this guy.

macuserforlife · Nov 8th, 2005, 05:49 AM

As I understand it you need to be invited by someone to get a gmail account. Perhaps there is an electronic "paper trail" here that can be traced. Maybe this clown was even stupid enough to "invite" himself from his real gmail account which would, I guess, yield his real name and address. Obviously assistance would be necessary from the gmail folk but, considering their efforts to keep gmail legit, they may be willing to help track someone who is using their accounts in a scam.

HowEver · Nov 8th, 2005, 06:03 PM

Um, no.

Knowing an originating invitational gmail account would yield no more than what a yahoo, hotmail or other email account provides.

Whatever you've heard, it isn't a security haven.

macuserforlife · Nov 8th, 2005, 06:51 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by HowEver
	Um, no. Knowing an originating invitational gmail account would yield no more than what a yahoo, hotmail or other email account provides.

I thought maybe an originating ip address might be handy...

	Quote:			Originally Posted by HowEver
	Whatever you've heard, it isn't a security haven.

Actually I haven't "heard" anything, I was merely trying to offer some assistance in the form of ideas....

.

HowEver · Nov 8th, 2005, 09:11 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by macuserforlife
	I thought maybe an originating ip address might be handy... Actually I haven't "heard" anything, I was merely trying to offer some assistance in the form of ideas.... .

Those are good ideas, but not even the thief's ISP is likely to give up his IP. GMail won't. That said, what about the people who received email from the guy? View headers?

bigni · Nov 9th, 2005, 06:53 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Applelover
	What's going on with Emad, aka: Andrew Carter? Can someone who's been scammed give a status update on any progress being made? I hope the rcmp isn't just sitting on there asses on this one....Enough people have been ripped off for some heavy action to be taken against this guy.

incase you guys wanted an update...

I went to the local police station and filed a report (along with the one from RECOL). My file was handed to the fraud team and they will have a look at it. I will give them a call this week to see what has happened in terms of the investigation. I will also keep you guys updated.

The guys at RECOL hasn't contacted me yet (and I don't really expect them to). So I am going to keep bugging my local police guys until I get an answer/

Good news though, my bank is most likely going to chargeback the visa payment through paypal. Paypal won't be able to recover your money if it has already been withdrawn - what good does that do? We can't return your lost money if it cannot be found. Uh.. that's not protection.

If you're going to buy something online through paypal, do it with VISA. Check out your visa's buyer protection. My visa protects me this scam.. and even has extended warranty on products that I buy!

seymore · Nov 9th, 2005, 09:07 PM

I was fortunate as well. As the money order had been returned "address unknown" I took the sealed envelope, my copy of the draft and a printout of this thread to the bank. No questions asked, they credited my account for the money.

Applelover · Nov 9th, 2005, 11:14 PM

Well I'm happy at least one person got there money back....I think this is the first time on ehmac where the victim of a scam artist have been able to retrieve there funds. Good stuff.

Nov 7th, 2005, 10:46 PM	#32
HowEver Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: GTEh Posts: 14,324	People should sign up for "hyperwallet." You can use it through your existing banking service, and the other party won't know your bank account info at all. You get their email address, and then send it there via hyperwallet, and provide an answer to a "secret question." __________________ ...

Nov 8th, 2005, 05:49 AM	#34
macuserforlife Full Citizen Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kingston, ON Posts: 434	As I understand it you need to be invited by someone to get a gmail account. Perhaps there is an electronic "paper trail" here that can be traced. Maybe this clown was even stupid enough to "invite" himself from his real gmail account which would, I guess, yield his real name and address. Obviously assistance would be necessary from the gmail folk but, considering their efforts to keep gmail legit, they may be willing to help track someone who is using their accounts in a scam. __________________ Windows is like pop music. Everyone would rather listen to something else, but it's the only thing playing on the radio. Some people claim to like it, and we all respect their opinion, because it's politically incorrect and not nice to make fun of stupid people. Windoze on a Mac:- You can put a grandpa in a Porsche but he’ll still be blind in one eye and smell funny.

Nov 8th, 2005, 06:03 PM	#35
HowEver Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: GTEh Posts: 14,324	What is a "real gmail account?" Um, no. Knowing an originating invitational gmail account would yield no more than what a yahoo, hotmail or other email account provides. Whatever you've heard, it isn't a security haven. __________________ ...

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Nov 7th, 2005, 10:38 PM	#31
seymore Full Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Markham Posts: 37	I agreed to buy a g4 15" iMac for $630. He wanted the money by bank transfer, but I wanted a money order. Sent it off by courier, and it was returned "address unknown". But John Howard has yet to reply to my emails.... Here is the address he gave: John Howard ( johnhoward66@gmail.com) 421 Alice Rigaud PQ J0P 1P0 wanted to be paid by certapay preferred not to have my freind pick it up, as he works nights. No freight as he can ship for free from work. And now he has my address, phone and email. I'll be watching for him. He'd do well to do the same. I guess my question also includes his access to the banking info from those who agreed to use electronic banking to send him money. He's a prick

Nov 7th, 2005, 10:50 PM	#33
Applelover On Vacation Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 537	What's going on with Emad, aka: Andrew Carter? Can someone who's been scammed give a status update on any progress being made? I hope the rcmp isn't just sitting on there asses on this one....Enough people have been ripped off for some heavy action to be taken against this guy.

Nov 9th, 2005, 09:07 PM	#39
seymore Full Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Markham Posts: 37	I was fortunate as well. As the money order had been returned "address unknown" I took the sealed envelope, my copy of the draft and a printout of this thread to the bank. No questions asked, they credited my account for the money.

Nov 9th, 2005, 11:14 PM	#40
Applelover On Vacation Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 537	Well I'm happy at least one person got there money back....I think this is the first time on ehmac where the victim of a scam artist have been able to retrieve there funds. Good stuff.