The American Political Thread

[Macfury]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by bryanc
	The jurisdictions in which these GOP-led initiatives are focused are noted for having a lot of Democratic voters in poor demographics; hence the asymmetry. I'll grant you that it's a desperation tactic that could backfire on them.

The poor cannot follow simple instructions or register to vote? Again, this seems paternalistic to me.

[bryanc]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Macfury
	The poor cannot follow simple instructions or register to vote? Again, this seems paternalistic to me.

It's not a case of simple instructions. It's the cost (in both time and money) and difficulty of getting the ID, and the fact that these 'initiatives' are clearly part of a partisan campaign that has people up in arms.

[Macfury]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by bryanc
	It's not a case of simple instructions. It's the cost (in both time and money) and difficulty of getting the ID, and the fact that these 'initiatives' are clearly part of a partisan campaign that has people up in arms.

All you've shown me is a case where a few people are finding it difficult to meet voting requirements because they have no other documents establishing their identities. It does not identify these people as Democrats. The fact that the NAACP has filed in Pennsylvania leads me to ask this same question again--are black people not able to get voter ID? I'll bet they are just as capable as people of any race to do this.

[bryanc]

I guess that's why Republican House Majority Leader Mike Turzai declared this measure "is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania." Are you really this naive about how politics works?

[Macfury]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by bryanc
	I guess that's why Republican House Majority Leader Mike Turzai declared this measure "is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania." Are you really this naive about how politics works?

Again, then Turzai agrees with Democrats who believe that Democrat voters will be incapable of producing whatever is required to apply for a voter ID card in such large numbers that it will swing the election. I call that paternalistic. Do Democrats not drive, buy licquor or get passports?

Humorous anecdote. The NAACP, who is going after the Pennsylvania law, required photo ID at its own convention:

NAACP Requires Photo I.D. to See Holder Speak in State Being Sued Over Voter ID - Katie Pavlich

[groovetube]

SOunds like someone needs an education with some real time in the states to me.

[i-rui]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Macfury
	Humorous anecdote. The NAACP, who is going after the Pennsylvania law, required photo ID at its own convention: NAACP Requires Photo I.D. to See Holder Speak in State Being Sued Over Voter ID - Katie Pavlich

the only thing humorous about that is that anyone could possibly compare checking press credentials to the inalienable right to vote.

what a silly article. amazing that they had the balls to actually publish such drivel.

[Macfury]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by i-rui
	the only thing humorous about that is that anyone could possibly compare checking press credentials to the inalienable right to vote. what a silly article. amazing that they had the balls to actually publish such drivel.

May the heavens have mercy on them for daring to make a joke about voter I.D. in general public.

Besides, what if some of the media happened to be Democrats? They would find a large contingent of their numbers excluded from the event!

[i-rui]

so it was a "joke"?

sorry to see what passes as humour on conservative websites. i'd tell them not to quit their day job, but considering their day job is spreading misinformation and BS, quitting might be for the best.

unless you were implying that all conservative websites are a joke, in which case i agree, but not in the "haha" kind of joke, more of the "sad and pathetic" kind of joke.

[Macfury]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by i-rui
	sorry to see what passes as humour on conservative websites. i'd tell them not to quit their day job, but considering their day job is spreading misinformation and BS, quitting might be for the best.

So conservative web sites spread "misinformation and BS" and liberal web sites spread... what?