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Old Mar 19th, 2012, 09:03 AM   #31
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Never a mention about the biggest damage in US history under the republicans.

Though there's plenty to criticize, in 4 years they were able to stabilize, and actually show some positivity. I doubt that would have occurred under mcCain.

Best of bad choices it would seem.
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Old Mar 19th, 2012, 09:22 AM   #32
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I can't imagine how much more damage the Democrats would have done to the country given absolute free reign.
Yeah, those tax-and-spend types would have ruined the economy... just look at the history of the US economy under Democrats vs. Republicans! Oh... wait... the US economy has done consistently better under Democrats since WWII... um... what were you saying?
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Old Mar 19th, 2012, 09:26 AM   #33
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Yeah, those tax-and-spend types would have ruined the economy... just look at the history of the US economy under Democrats vs. Republicans! Oh... wait... the US economy has done consistently better under Democrats since WWII... um... what were you saying?
Perhaps that used to be true... until Obama.
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Perhaps that used to be true... until Obama.
After Bush drove the economy off a cliff, nothing but divine intervention could've prevented the crash. Despite being the most religious country in the developed world, God did not intervene, and Obama had to try to mitigate the damage. I don't agree with his mitigation strategies, but it certainly isn't fair to blame the crash on Obama.
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Old Mar 19th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #35
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After Bush drove the economy off a cliff, nothing but divine intervention could've prevented the crash. Despite being the most religious country in the developed world, God did not intervene, and Obama had to try to mitigate the damage. I don't agree with his mitigation strategies, but it certainly isn't fair to blame the crash on Obama.
I blame him for carrying on all of the worst policies of the Bush era, and exacerbating them, overseeing the most massive ramp up of debt in the country's history--and then concentrating on his pet project of health care reform instead of dealing with the economy and deficit.
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Old Mar 19th, 2012, 10:30 AM   #36
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Yeah, those tax-and-spend types would have ruined the economy... just look at the history of the US economy under Democrats vs. Republicans! Oh... wait... the US economy has done consistently better under Democrats since WWII... um... what were you saying?
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After Bush drove the economy off a cliff, nothing but divine intervention could've prevented the crash. Despite being the most religious country in the developed world, God did not intervene, and Obama had to try to mitigate the damage. I don't agree with his mitigation strategies, but it certainly isn't fair to blame the crash on Obama.
Your point, bryanc, is somewhat true .................. Bush drove the "economy off of a cliff", but then threw the keys to Obama as he walked away from this wreck.

Macfury, am I reading your post correctly???? You feel that FDR and LBJ are actually better than Pres. Obama????????? I thought that those two presidents were the "dynamic duo of doom" in your opinion. Or, are you just kidding us???? I guess when you say that Carter was a better president than Reagan we will know that you are just joking with us. We shall see.
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Your point, bryanc, is somewhat true .................. Bush drove the "economy off of a cliff", but then threw the keys to Obama as he walked away from this wreck.

Macfury, am I reading your post correctly???? You feel that FDR and LBJ are actually better than Pres. Obama????????? I thought that those two presidents were the "dynamic duo of doom" in your opinion. Or, are you just kidding us???? I guess when you say that Carter was a better president than Reagan we will know that you are just joking with us. We shall see.
In order of preference:

FDR (for war effort only)
LBJ
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Obama

Until Obama, I considered Carter the worst president in modern history. Obama has earned clear title to that honour (honor).

I remember seeing Carter crushed by Reagan. A refreshing event!
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In order of preference:

FDR (for war effort only)
LBJ
Carter
Obama

Until Obama, I considered Carter the worst president in modern history. Obama has earned clear title to that honour (honor).

I remember seeing Carter crushed by Reagan. A refreshing event!
Interesting list. What might the ranking of Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. be in terms of your most liked to least liked? Thus, they are ranked against each other and not any Democrat. You may throw in Coolidge, Harding and TR is you want.

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Until Obama, I considered Carter the worst president in modern history.
You'll be among the very few who don't see Bush II taking that title by a country mile.

While the right has been trying to paint Obama as an extreme radical socialist, his major flaw has been that he's been accommodating to a fault - the compromiser-in-chief. But this does have the effect of making him look like a reasonable man, and illustrates how much the Republicans are simply projecting their own radicalism and partisan obstructionism. The question in my mind is wether Obama's propensity to yield too much to the Republicans will have disaffected Democratic voters to the extent that they don't turn out to vote. This will be a problem if the Faux News watchers, who think Obama is a Kenyan Muslim/Atheist socialist Nazi commie who's gonna take away their guns, succeed in mobilizing the crazy Republican Base.
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Carter was decades ahead of his time. If the US followed his lead on energy conservation and not living beyond it's means it wouldn't be in the mess they find themselves in today.
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