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The American Political Thread

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Something I've noted several times is that, while most of us agree it's important to be informed about Canadian politics and to be an engaged citizen, the fact is that Canadian politics are generally pretty boring (this can be a good thing, IMO). The Americans, on the other hand, have turned the dysfunction of their political system into an entertainment industry (although it appears Harper, et al., are determined to reduce the Canadian system to the same level).

So I thought I'd start a thread for discussion of the Reality TV show they call American Politics.

I'll start with this posting I saw on another forum, with respect to the Republican's policies on women's health care, especially with regard to contraception and abortion:
After years and years and years of specifically targeting homophobes, racists, bigots, religious zealots, anti-intellectuals and sociopaths why should we be at all shocked that the GOP picked up a ****load of misogynists along the way?
 
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ah, full employment. Hopefully Romney/Pau will give even more corporate tax cuts and promote full employment!

Hopefully that spills up here, because I have my eye on an audi A6.
Well, I am not sure if the outsourcing of jobs will head north, but if you incorporate, I am sure that you could get some assistance from the US government to outsource some US jobs this way ............. and you could pocket the profits. :greedy:
 
#663 ·
Yes, the bitter medicine of full employment will rob people of these entitlements.
Correct. However, full employment can only be achieved if they do away with items such as the minimum wage, worker's compensation, employer-supported health benifits, defined retirement benifits, etc. Cut these all out, take away the provisions for not allowing children to be hired for certain jobs, throw out worker and environmental protection laws, and you have the recipe for full employment. And, while they are at dismantling government regulations, take away the chains that shackle free enterprise and return to the days when "the business of America is business".

Paix, mon ami.
 
#664 ·
Well, I am not sure if the outsourcing of jobs will head north, but if you incorporate, I am sure that you could get some assistance from the US government to outsource some US jobs this way ............. and you could pocket the profits. :greedy:
I was thinking more that the experiment is being done here with corp tax cuts. Now that the corps are massive cash hoarders, damn I want to get into the action much further!

Let them eat cake!
 
#665 ·
I was thinking more that the experiment is being done here with corp tax cuts. Now that the corps are massive cash hoarders, damn I want to get into the action much further!

Let them eat cake!
That's the attitude. You are closer to the Audi A6 than you think. Still, that could be car #2 .................. what will you want for your car #1? Think differently ......... think 1% ......................
 
#667 ·
Correct. However, full employment can only be achieved if they do away with items such as the minimum wage, worker's compensation, employer-supported health benifits, defined retirement benifits, etc. Cut these all out, take away the provisions for not allowing children to be hired for certain jobs, throw out worker and environmental protection laws, and you have the recipe for full employment. And, while they are at dismantling government regulations, take away the chains that shackle free enterprise and return to the days when "the business of America is business".

Paix, mon ami.
When we eliminate unjust and ridiculous laws, yes, the dream can be achieved! Paix, mon ami!
 
#668 ·
When we eliminate unjust and ridiculous laws, yes, the dream can be achieved! Paix, mon ami!
Right on, Brother Macfury. First to go, the absurd clean air and water acts from the Great Society. Then, dismantle all of FDR's remaining New Deal acts (social security, etc), and that's a start. I don't see the need for income or corporate taxes as well, so they could go. Amendments might be more difficult to take away, but that could be considered later on in the second Romney administration.

Would you believe that it is still against the law to float a cow in a hot air balloon over Central Park in New York City???? You can carry a horse, a dog, a pig and a cat in this one balloon, but not a cow. Absurd laws ..................
 
#671 ·
Ireland capitulated to all of the usual corporate demands in hope of boosting their economy, but were instead left with an economic mess.

The idea that a country can be be saved economically by catering to those ideas is a myth.
When in excess of 50% of the economy is government activity, we would hardly call it a free market.
 
#672 ·
However, some degree of maintaining the commons is necessary.
Careful there, MacFury; it's a slippery slope. Once you allow governments to start legislating to protect the commons where does it stop? Surely well-armed individualists are better able to look after their own interests than any meddling government... why not let citizens look after the commons and keep government out of it?
 
#673 ·
Careful there, MacFury; it's a slippery slope. Once you allow governments to start legislating to protect the commons where does it stop? Surely well-armed individualists are better able to look after their own interests than any meddling government... why not let citizens look after the commons and keep government out of it?
Not to protect it--to help ensure that it is maintained until it safely in private hands.
 
#674 ·
I agree with dismantling much of FDR's blighted legacy. However, some degree of maintaining the commons is necessary.
Now, don't start back sliding on us now, Macfury. Those who can, will, those who can't won't ........... and they shall fall by the wayside. "To each according to his or her need", and obviously those with great wealth need more to maintain this great wealth. Simple math from the Reagan years.
 
#675 ·
Careful there, MacFury; it's a slippery slope. Once you allow governments to start legislating to protect the commons where does it stop? Surely well-armed individualists are better able to look after their own interests than any meddling government... why not let citizens look after the commons and keep government out of it?
I agree. Let people tend/fend for themselves and keep our tax dollars out of the pot.
 
#676 ·
Not to protect it--to help ensure that it is maintained until it safely in private hands.
Why don't we just keep our hands off business and let businesses care for their own interests. At some point, so long as we keep buying their products and consuming their products, it will work out for the betterment of all. Until then, those with their hands on the reins of production will make better decisions as to what is best for us all.
 
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