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The American Political Thread

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Something I've noted several times is that, while most of us agree it's important to be informed about Canadian politics and to be an engaged citizen, the fact is that Canadian politics are generally pretty boring (this can be a good thing, IMO). The Americans, on the other hand, have turned the dysfunction of their political system into an entertainment industry (although it appears Harper, et al., are determined to reduce the Canadian system to the same level).

So I thought I'd start a thread for discussion of the Reality TV show they call American Politics.

I'll start with this posting I saw on another forum, with respect to the Republican's policies on women's health care, especially with regard to contraception and abortion:
After years and years and years of specifically targeting homophobes, racists, bigots, religious zealots, anti-intellectuals and sociopaths why should we be at all shocked that the GOP picked up a ****load of misogynists along the way?
 
#601 ·
Oops ................

Mitt Romney could have said almost anything to a buoyant crowd ready to welcome his new running mate and it would have been OK. But flubbing Paul Ryan's big intro evoked a moment of "Say what?" uncertainty.

About 1,000 people had queued in long lines starting before daylight to be the first to hail the Wisconsin congressman who became a conservative hero for championing deep spending cuts.

People beamed, leaning forward, standing on tiptoes, craning their necks as Romney set up the most anticipated debut of his candidacy.

Then Romney says, "... the next president of the United States, Paul Ryan."

Romney flubs running mate Ryan's introduction - World - CBC News
 
#602 ·
Paul Ryan, apparently, a darling of the Tea Party and an ensconced Washington insider. How paradoxical is that?
 
#603 ·
Paul Ryan, apparently, a darling of the Tea Party and an ensconced Washington insider. How paradoxical is that?
True .............. but as a fiscal conservative, he reclaims this base for the Republican Party.
 
#604 ·
(CNN) - "Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, had little to say to her 2012 counterpart in a statement released nearly twelve hours after Mitt Romney made his running mate announcement.

"Congratulations to Mitt Romney on his choice of Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate," Palin wrote in a statement, which mentioned Romney's name only four times and Ryan's name only three out of over 1,100 words. The statement was posted on her Facebook page."


Sounds a bit lukewarm to me.
 
#606 ·
even she knew Obama would be tough to beat this time around, so she's waiting for 2016.
I think that she is hurt that people are blaming her selection of VP for the loss in 2008, and how this selection is so much better. Paix, mon ami.
 
#607 ·
CNN thinks the VP choice is a bad one:


Milwaukee (CNN) -- While there is a short-term and potential electoral edge in Mitt Romney's selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate, it is politically risky and violates what should be the guiding principle in choosing a vice-presidential nominee: "First, do no harm." In the end, the choice may do more harm than good.
Ryan pick will steer Romney campaign to treacherous waters - CNN.com
 
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#609 ·
From Wienermobile driver to VP candidate ................ well, he has my vote and the votes of all other dachshund owners ........... which is the 5th most popular breed of dog in America.

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
 
#611 ·
CNN has more dire news about running mate choice:

Paul Ryan's dangerous vision - CNN.com
While there shall be others who disagree with Donna Brazile's views, I find her arguement compelling. If my mother were still alive and living in New York City, I think that she would be fearful of what will become of Medicare and Social Security should the Romney-Paul ticket win in November.
 
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"Paul Ryan — Randian Super-Hero of Individual Self-Reliance and Working Class Warrior against government debt, waste, and intrusiveness — whose actual life is a testament to the precise opposite values ................and now seeks to exploit what he himself helped create in order to deny to others the very benefits that were responsible for almost every opportunity and success he has had in his life, with the burden falling most harshly on those who need those benefits the most to have any remnant of fair opportunity. That’s the crux of the American elite: making massive mistakes and engaging in destructive behavior and then demanding that everyone — except them — bear the brunt of the consequences."

Paul Ryan - Salon.com

Well, maybe he and Romney make a perfect pair together??? We shall see.
 
#614 ·
There were a host of pundits on the left warning Romney of the "danger" of choosing Ryan as veep. I suspect this was transference. They were afraid that Romney would do just that because it will put Obama on the defensive.

i-rui, Obama is a big spender of future dollars, committing his country to a grossly expensive health care plan, and massive deficits. Likewise, using the first stimulus program as a baseline, rather than a one-time cash injection skews the numbers ridiculously in Obama's favour.
 
#618 ·
"Paul Ryan — Randian Super-Hero of Individual Self-Reliance and Working Class Warrior against government debt, waste, and intrusiveness — whose actual life is a testament to the precise opposite values ................and now seeks to exploit what he himself helped create in order to deny to others the very benefits that were responsible for almost every opportunity and success he has had in his life, with the burden falling most harshly on those who need those benefits the most to have any remnant of fair opportunity. That’s the crux of the American elite: making massive mistakes and engaging in destructive behavior and then demanding that everyone — except them — bear the brunt of the consequences."

Paul Ryan - Salon.com

Well, maybe he and Romney make a perfect pair together??? We shall see.
The left is eager, it seems, to paint any sort of success as obscene, unless that success was fueled by government largesse.
 
#619 ·
total nonsense.

More backpedalling. Does it ever cease?
;)

Of course this (that was already posted^^) was ignored:

Paul Ryan — Randian Super-Hero of Individual Self-Reliance and Working Class Warrior against government debt, waste, and intrusiveness — whose actual life is a testament to the precise opposite values

ha ha ha. What was that about the left again? :lmao:
 
#620 ·
The left is eager, it seems, to paint any sort of success as obscene, unless that success was fueled by government largesse.
total nonsense.

More backpedalling. Does it ever cease?
;)

Of course this (that was already posted^^) was ignored:

Paul Ryan — Randian Super-Hero of Individual Self-Reliance and Working Class Warrior against government debt, waste, and intrusiveness — whose actual life is a testament to the precise opposite values

ha ha ha. What was that about the left again? :lmao:
Have to agree with gt, MF. Sadly, Ryan wants to slash the programs which helped him get to where he is now. Even Romney is trying to distance himself from the Ryan budget plan, saying that Congress had it's plan, and his campaign has it's budget plan which this team shall run on and campaign on .................... all the way to the White House. We shall see.
 
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