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Something I've noted several times is that, while most of us agree it's important to be informed about Canadian politics and to be an engaged citizen, the fact is that Canadian politics are generally pretty boring (this can be a good thing, IMO). The Americans, on the other hand, have turned the dysfunction of their political system into an entertainment industry (although it appears Harper, et al., are determined to reduce the Canadian system to the same level).

So I thought I'd start a thread for discussion of the Reality TV show they call American Politics.

I'll start with this posting I saw on another forum, with respect to the Republican's policies on women's health care, especially with regard to contraception and abortion:
After years and years and years of specifically targeting homophobes, racists, bigots, religious zealots, anti-intellectuals and sociopaths why should we be at all shocked that the GOP picked up a ****load of misogynists along the way?
 
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And here's the Obama campaign's (surprisingly restrained) response:

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Hey, I like a flexible candidate ................ be it on welfare or the truth. So long as the "half truths" help the 1%, the rest of us will gain by the trickle down from their gains. So, I say, bring on flexibility ................ even at the expense of the truth.
 
#583 ·
Obfuscation and slander is an all-too common and sad part of politics - but the U.S. has made it into a true art form.

Now we have this:

Mitt Romney is a blatant liar and he is running for president of the United States.

(Eclectablog.com)
I read the lawsuit. Essentially, the military in Ohio has the right to vote three days earlier than the rest of the population, due to mail delays. The current law reduced early voting to one day, for everyone except the military. The Democrat party feels this will kill some Obama votes:

"Plaintiff OBAMA FOR AMERICA is the principal campaign committee of President Barack Obama as he seeks re-election as President of the United States. Nearly 550,000 Ohio citizens voted for President Obama in the March 2012 Democratic Primary. Many of these voters will elect to cast their ballots early for the general election, but will be unable to do so in the three days prior to Election Day as a result of HB 224 and SB 295."
In their zeal to extend voting opportunities for Democrats, they are attempting to remove the distinction between military voters and non-military voters. This is their error and the reason why the Democrats are taking such heat for this. If you extend voting for all Ohioans, the military voter must still be given an additional three days to vote, to equalize outcome.

That is not the intention of the current lawsuit.
 
#586 · (Edited)
Careful, there, MF - you'll put your back out with all that squirming...

Here's Romney's weaselly attempt at slander:



He is right only in that the change would remove the 'advantage' that military personnel have, that of voting a few days prior to 'common' citizens. But in no way is he 'disenfranchising' them, which is the impression the ad gives.

Your defence of Romney's position is curious.
 
#587 ·
nice turnaround indeed. I've seen a few republican supporters really squirming over this one. Nice to see.

But the real truth is, Romney bald faced lied about the issue, and one has to wonder why the voting was restricted in the first place.

I think the huge lie and the voter restrictions is the bigger story here, sorry.
 
#588 ·
Careful, there, MF - you'll put your back out with all that squirming...

Here's Romney's weaselly attempt at slander:

http://eclectablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RomneyMilitaryLie.png

He is right only in that the change would remove the 'advantage' that military personnel have, that of voting a few days prior to 'common' citizens. But in no way is he 'disenfranchising' them, which is the impression the ad gives.

Your defence of Romney's position is curious.
I would agree that they are not being dienfranchised. However, as far as I can tell, the intent of the lawsuit is to increase votes for Obama, not to make voting fairer.
 
#590 ·
New Romney Campaign Distortion: Falsely Claims Obama 'Promised Today To Bail Out Every Industry' | ThinkProgress

Apparently there's lots more distorted talking points for Romney admirers to quote multiple times coming up. It should be quite a treat for anyone trying to wade through the barrage of posts and noise who are trying make out what was actually said.

It's kinda too bad.

However, it -is- a well worn tactic to heat any discussion, just repeat often enough to annoy anyone trying have a real discussion.

best not to fall for it.
 
#591 ·
New Romney Campaign Distortion: Falsely Claims Obama 'Promised Today To Bail Out Every Industry' | ThinkProgress

Apparently there's lots more distorted talking points for Romney admirers to quote multiple times coming up. It should be quite a treat for anyone trying to wade through the barrage of posts and noise who are trying make out what was actually said.

It's kinda too bad.

However, it -is- a well worn tactic to heat any discussion, just repeat often enough to annoy anyone trying have a real discussion.

best not to fall for it.
Mitt Romney is merely utilizing Orwell's invented language, Newspeak, which tends to satirize hypocrisy and evasion by the state. At least he is literate enough to have read "1984" ............... all Pres. Obama has done is written a couple of books.
 
#595 ·
pretty serious allegations I'd say. Looks like you stung a little too hard Dr. G, to bring about the paranoia of Bill Ayers.

Though this isn't likely at all, I'd like to see proof of the plagiarism..
AS Mark Twain once said, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."

Paix, mon ami.
 
#596 ·
(CNN) – Donald Trump is set to get a 'unique' gig at the Republican National Convention in late August, an aide to the real estate titan confirmed on Friday.

"Mr. Trump's role will occur at the Tampa Bay Times Forum (site of the convention), though the specifics of the role are not being released at this time. The role, like Mr. Trump, is unique and will be memorable for all those in attendance at the convention and those watching around the country. Stay tuned," Executive Vice President and Special Counsel Michael Cohen told CNN.


I still can't believe that the Republican Party may disrespect Rep. Ron Paul, a Republican Congressman from TX, at the convention. We shall see.
 
#597 ·
(CNN) – Mitt Romney's campaign announced Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as the Republican candidate's running mate as he begins a four-day, four-state bus tour. Romney and Ryan will appear together at an event in Norfolk, Virginia, at 9 a.m. ET.


I was surprised by this pick, but Romney knows best.
 
#599 ·
he of the farcical budget plan.

sheesh.
Ryan, who chairs the House Budget Committee, will not overshadow Romney and will help to recapture the fiscal conservatives who were abandoned by Bush. We shall see.
 
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