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Something I've noted several times is that, while most of us agree it's important to be informed about Canadian politics and to be an engaged citizen, the fact is that Canadian politics are generally pretty boring (this can be a good thing, IMO). The Americans, on the other hand, have turned the dysfunction of their political system into an entertainment industry (although it appears Harper, et al., are determined to reduce the Canadian system to the same level).

So I thought I'd start a thread for discussion of the Reality TV show they call American Politics.

I'll start with this posting I saw on another forum, with respect to the Republican's policies on women's health care, especially with regard to contraception and abortion:
After years and years and years of specifically targeting homophobes, racists, bigots, religious zealots, anti-intellectuals and sociopaths why should we be at all shocked that the GOP picked up a ****load of misogynists along the way?
 
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Is he getting soft??? At least Romney blamed the loss on Pres. Obama's "gifts" to the "47%".

(CNN) - Rep. Paul Ryan described his election loss with Mitt Romney last week as a painful surprise but argued the president won re-election "fair and square," according to the congressman's interviews with local news outlets in Wisconsin on Monday.
 
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Is he getting soft??? At least Romney blamed the loss on Pres. Obama's "gifts" to the "47%".

(CNN) - Rep. Paul Ryan described his election loss with Mitt Romney last week as a painful surprise but argued the president won re-election "fair and square," according to the congressman's interviews with local news outlets in Wisconsin on Monday.
Considering his own state voted Obama he's kissing some Wisconsin butt.
 
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That "data" is nowhere in the documents, either in your first link to the dataset documents, or in your imaged page from the pdf that I found and linked. So I still call BS on your original statement.
Indeed it is, but the second document failed to upload. Will try something else to make it read here.
 
#2,584 ·
Considering his own state voted Obama he's kissing some Wisconsin butt.
Maybe he drank the "Etch-a-Sketch" Kool Ade .................. or is suffering from Romnesia???
 
#2,588 ·
I find the willingness of consumers to engage in this to be disconcerting.
I agree ............ at least on American Thanksgiving. The 4th Thursday in November was always a day ........ a full day ....... of being with family. Granted, while I was in university, I did spend a bit of time working on assignments, but mostly just reading at home.
 
#2,589 ·
An unaccounted for result of, er, freedom?
Well, it is the American consumer that will help to pull the economy up, along with small business doing more hiring. We shall see.
 
#2,591 ·
This just in from CNN -- Rubio pulling out of one race ......................

“I am not, nor will I ever be, a candidate for … offensive coordinator of Iowa. I know there’s rumors,” he joked to Iowans at a fundraiser for Gov. Terry Branstad’s birthday, adding he would have been in the NFL “if not for my lack of size, speed and talent.”

There were laughs, but the announcement of Rubio’s trip last week to the Hawkeye State drew even further speculation of a possible 2016 bid for the White House.
 
#2,592 ·
(CNN) - Newt Gingrich had harsh words Sunday for GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s suggestion that he lost the election because President Barack Obama offered “gifts” to African-Americans, Hispanics, and young voters.

“I just think it’s nuts,” Gingrich said on ABC. “I mean, first of all, it's insulting.”

“The job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win,” said Gingrich, who launched blistering attacks on Romney last spring while seeking the presidential nomination himself.
 
#2,594 ·
Perhaps in four years the Republicans can fashion a basket of goodies that don't cost too much.
Good idea, Macfury. Sadly, Pres. Obama is not budging in giving back the tax breaks to the wealthies Americans. Those one-percenters need some gooodies as well. Of course, their goodies will most likely prove costly. Such is Life.
 
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GratuitousApplesauce said:
That "data" is nowhere in the documents, either in your first link to the dataset documents, or in your imaged page from the pdf that I found and linked. So I still call BS on your original statement.
Indeed it is, but the second document failed to upload. Will try something else to make it read here.
Sure you will MF. Sure you will.

I understand, posting an image on ehMac is hard. Let us know if you need some technical advice now.
 
#2,596 ·
Perhaps in four years the Republicans can fashion a basket of goodies that don't cost too much.
They've not been very good at that.....fiscal responsibility not their strong point....catering to the military-industrial complex has been tho.....didn't get them elected this time.

 
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Sure you will MF. Sure you will.

I understand, posting an image on ehMac is hard. Let us know if you need some technical advice now.
Tried to put up a chunk of spreadsheet, but it's too big. I'm not very proficient in Excel, but I'm trying to trim off unneeded info without destroying the data. Do not despair.
 
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They've not been very good at that.....fiscal responsibility not their strong point....catering to the military-industrial complex has been tho.....didn't get them elected this time.
MacDoc, how many times are people going to post that piece of tripe? The Obama figure uses the economic stimulus package of a trillion dollars in the baseline. Obama's actual rate of spending increase is 5.5%--about three times the rate of inflation. Check the inflation rates when Reagan was president--they approached the increases in spending.

The facts about the growth of spending under Obama - The Washington Post

Another problem with Nutting’s analysis is that the figures are viewed in isolation. Even 5.5 percent growth would put Obama between Bill Clinton and George W. Bush in terms of spending growth, but that does not take into account either inflation or the relative size of the U.S. economy. At 5.2 percent growth, Obama’s increase in spending would be nearly three times the rate of inflation. Meanwhile, Nutting pegs Ronald Reagan with 8.7 percent growth in his first term — we get 12.5 percent CAGR — but inflation then was running at 6.5 percent.
Obama is a truly a spending champion.
 
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