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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #21
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Self-employed. The worst boss imaginable.
Your wife or your banker?

I had to defer my January vacation due to health issues, perhaps next year .
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #22
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self-employed is often an illusion.
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #23
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self-employed is often an illusion.
How so?
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Old Feb 16th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #24
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As one who has been self-employed for 25+ years I'm waiting for edification of this post ...
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As one who has been self-employed for 25+ years I'm waiting for edification of this post ...
I'm guessing you'll be waiting 25+ years for a satisfactory answer.
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Old Feb 17th, 2012, 07:30 AM   #26
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How so?
well, you're still really, working for someone.

I haven't had a 9-5 job in probably 28 years, save for a couple temp jobs I snagged when times were really rough way back when. So admittedly, I probably have forgotten what the other side is like. But, I have been working til 1 am lately and not many weekends off, so there are times, I see it as an illusion, you often end up working more.

When I have full time guys working, I'm generally the one still here after 5.
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Old Feb 17th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #27
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Well, I didn't expect I was going to be paying myself. Of course I'm working for other people. But I'd rather be working long hours and knowing the benefits will all accrue to me instead of to a company of which I'm an employee.
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Old Feb 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #28
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well, you're still really, working for someone.

I haven't had a 9-5 job in probably 28 years, save for a couple temp jobs I snagged when times were really rough way back when. So admittedly, I probably have forgotten what the other side is like. But, I have been working til 1 am lately and not many weekends off, so there are times, I see it as an illusion, you often end up working more.

When I have full time guys working, I'm generally the one still here after 5.
No matter what you do, unless you are independently wealthy, or make your income purely form the proceeds of the buying and selling of equities and commodities, can I think of a single situation where you are not "working for someone else" or more correctly, someone else is paying you for what you do or have done.

So based on your limitation of the definition of what it means to be self-employed there would be literally almost no such thing as being self-employed, a limitation of the definition that clearly no revenue agency in the country either provincial or federal agrees with, so your point is rather moot and does not fit the common sense or legal meaning/understanding of the term self-employed.
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No matter what you do unless you are independently wealthy, or make your income purely form the proceeds of the buying and selling of equities and commodities, can I think of a single situation where you are not "working for someone else" or more correctly, someone else is paying you for what you do or have done.
Being a landlord over your own properties--working for yourself.

Some of the tenants seem to think I'm working for them. I'm not. Property management isn't really a service-oriented business, but really speaking, the tenants are not so much my customers are they are part of my product (an income producing asset.)

It may sound like splitting hairs, but there's a definite distinction.
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Being a landlord over your own properties--working for yourself.

Some of the tenants seem to think I'm working for them. I'm not. Property management isn't really a service-oriented business, but really speaking, the tenants are not so much my customers are they are part of my product (an income producing asset.)

It may sound like splitting hairs, but there's a definite distinction.
Are you a property manager or a property owner who rents out their properties, i.e. a landlord?
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