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Originally Posted by i-rui
Canadian conservatives are acting like sports fans cheering on their team. It doesn't matter what the actual policy is, they just want their team in control.
So we get "libertarian" conservatives supporting foreign military operations, and "fiscal" conservatives supporting buying f-35s that even Republican politicians in the states are saying are a waste of money.
I guess this is what happens when there is only one party on the right. You have to bite your tongue on things like principles you believe in in order to have a winning sign on your lawn.
Sigh.... Once again...
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Canada is looking at setting up bases around the world to better position the military to participate in international missions, Defence Minister Peter MacKay confirmed Thursday.
The Canadian Forces does "prudent planning," MacKay told reporters, taking into account the ability to participate in international missions.
There are no plans to set up permanent bases around the world, but the planning happens to ensure Canada has options in case the military needs to deploy from another country, a government source said.
"As we look out into the future what we obviously try to do is anticipate where and when we will be needed, but it's difficult with any certainty to make those plans, without talking to other countries, without doing internal examinations," Mackay said.
"The focus of the planning, let's be clear, is our capability for expeditionary participation in international missions.... We are big players in NATO. We're a country that has become a go-to nation in response to situations like what we're seeing in Libya, what we saw in Haiti...
Yep, big conspiracy here for those who make it a pastime to look for them....
It's hard to know your position. you're not actually defending the policy of potentially opening up military bases overseas, simply attacking people who disagree.
Do you think it's a good idea that Canada has now dropped 240 bombs on Libya? That we're going to order 1300 more @ $100,000 a pop? That we're going to extend our mission there without actually having a mandate? What started under the guise of protecting civilians has morphed into something completely different.
It's hard to know your position. you're not actually defending the policy of potentially opening up military bases overseas, simply attacking people who disagree.
Do you think it's a good idea that Canada has now dropped 240 bombs on Libya? That we're going to order 1300 more @ $100,000 a pop? That we're going to extend our mission there without actually having a mandate? What started under the guise of protecting civilians has morphed into something completely different.
I think it's possible that a military base might be a good idea, but it would have to make economic sense. However, I disagree that such a base would automatically be an expression of Imperialism.
I never supported the Libya operation. We have no idea who would take power if the current regime was deposed.
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We are big players in NATO. We're a country that has become a go-to nation in response to situations like what we're seeing in Libya, what we saw in Haiti...
Haiti is at least in our continental sphere, while Libya is not. Let the British an French NATO contingent tearass around North Africa...god knows they have plenty of colonial skeletons there.
Perhaps we're the go-to nation because we're suckers? Who gets the bill for these "expeditionary" junkets? Oh...wait...it's us.
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I think it's possible that a military base might be a good idea, but it would have to make economic sense. However, I disagree that such a base would automatically be an expression of Imperialism.
i would consider that counter to libertarian principles.
I will pre-apologize to anyone who finds the title offensive, but it was in my head before I got the camera out of the case and does complement the image perfectly.
i would consider that counter to libertarian principles.
No. It's OK to conduct military operations against countries who are attacking or threatening you--however, the threshold on this has been extremely low recently. If there were such countries, however, a base near the theatre of operations would be a good idea.
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... for a sizeable portion of this planet's population, that evil arrives in camoflague with a US flag on the shoulder. The USA's military interventions around the world have rarely been for any reason one might call "humanitarian" or to truly "fight evil" - it has, rather, been to solidify foreign policy aims at the point of a gun.
Okay, that's all true enough. Indeed, it is obvious if you study world history. So why is there a thread about this?
What does "neglect" mean in this context? In all those years. how many times has Canada been attacked?
Canada is continually being attacked...
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Years of cost-cutting reduced Canada's ability to roam, let alone police, the waters it claims as its own. Canada's military presence in the North is limited to the Canadian Forces Northern Area (CFNA) headquarters in Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, and two smaller detachments in Whitehorse, Yukon, and Iqaluit, Nunavut.
Col. Norm Couturier, the CFNA commander, acknowledges that he faces a huge logistical challenge. The CFNA is spread over 1.5 million square miles of some of the world's most inhospitable and sparsely populated regions. There are no roads connecting the region year-round with the rest of Canada, and virtually everything has to be sent by sea or airlifted.
To oversee this huge expanse, Couturier has a staff of about 200 Regular Forces soldiers with four Twin Otter transport utility planes and 1,400 Canadian Rangers on snowmobiles.
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