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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #221
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The NDP wasn't going to back it without changes, which the negotiated for and got.

Hudak never came up to bat on this one. Essentially, he gave up any semblance of power on this, and got nothing.... and for what? Spite?

So the budget moves further left, which gets him no closer to his stated goals for Ontario.
Hudak's campaign wasn't run to the right of McGuinty so he has no real high ground here. Had he promoted McGuinty's current budget--which is a step in the right direction--as part of his election campaign, he would have won in a landslide.
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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #222
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Hudak's campaign wasn't run to the right of McGuinty so he has no real high ground here. Had he promoted McGuinty's current budget--which is a step in the right direction--as part of his election campaign, he would have won in a landslide.
You consider a step in the right direction as including a 2% tax on the super-rich? That doesn't seem like you.
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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 06:47 PM   #223
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You consider a step in the right direction as including a 2% tax on the super-rich? That doesn't seem like you.
I don't support the 2% tax—I hate these infantile gestures of class warfare--but Hudak could not have changed that. The point I'm making is that McGuinty's budget was a better platform than Hudak ran on. He has no moral high ground at this point to attempt to force the budget toward fiscal conservatism. McGuinty has eclipsed him. Hudak is a spent force.
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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 06:58 PM   #224
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I don't support the 2% tax—I hate these infantile gestures of class warfare--but Hudak could not have changed that. The point I'm making is that McGuinty's budget was a better platform than Hudak ran on. He has no moral high ground at this point to attempt to force the budget toward fiscal conservatism. McGuinty has eclipsed him. Hudak is a spent force.
True. But I wasn't thinking so much about the actual budget as I was thinking that Hudak shot himself in the foot politically by not at least pretending to participate in the process. He can't take credit for anything, and he can't even claim to have been a victim of anything. He simply stepped to the side and let himself be rendered irrelevant.

He just doesn't seem very good at playing this game.
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I think he already positioned himself left of McGuinty's current persona with his crappy election platform. He couldn't appear morally outraged over that budget.
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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #226
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I think he already positioned himself left of McGuinty's current persona with his crappy election platform. He couldn't appear morally outraged over that budget.
Nonetheless, he's trying to.
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From this conservatives point of view, Hudak has been a total fail. I agree with Macfury, I think he ran on a Liberal platform. They need a leadership change if they hope to win. A conservative candidate would be nice.
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Old Apr 27th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #228
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Nonetheless, he's trying to.
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Hudak said that the Ontario PC Caucus believes in a very different approach: “It’s one that requires urgent action on two parallel tracks,” Hudak said. “We need to reduce the size and cost of government and kick-start growth and job creation in the private sector.
Really? Why didn't you have a plan for that before the last election? He doesn't wear the outrage well.
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