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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #5111
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Did Harper truly win? I'll wait for Elections Canada to pronounce on that. If they find that the vote suppression was as wide spread as it has been reported what does that say about Canadian democracy? Perhaps Harper should stop holding so many committee meetings in camera, respond to the press, and stop stalling and rejecting FOI requests. Perhaps when these issues and a plethora of other issues are addressed the comparisons will stop.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:21 PM   #5112
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It is insulting because it equates the PM to a tyrannical megalomanical dictator and is in fact by extrapolation also then equating Canadian politics and our institutions to the political situation in North Korea... as I said before, ridiculous in the extreme.
Ah, he does not live up to the phrase. In that case your sensitivity is indeed well justified.

I think the issue may revolve around "Our". After all, a number of bills, C-11 and C-30 in particular, were clearly written for the government by outside interests. These bills being virtually identical to bills originally put forth under the Liberal Banner, makes denial of outside influence quite implausible. It is hard not to conclude that in the mind of this Government, corporate and power buds take precedence over the interests of Canadians. So I will give you that "Our" does not really apply to the PM.

If you also wish to claim that he falls short of being "Glorious" and/or a "Leader", I will happily defer to your professed superior knowledge of the Canadian Parliamentary System.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:23 PM   #5113
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Did Harper truly win? I'll wait for Elections Canada to pronounce on that. If they find that the vote suppression was as wide spread had been reported what does that say about Canadian democracy? Perhaps Harper should stop holding so many committee meetings in camera, respond to the press, and stop stalling and rejecting FOI requests. Perhaps when these issues and a plethora of other issues are addressed the comparisons will stop.
Harper did truly win, Elections Canada will not be changing that I I have not doubt on that front whatsoever.

The comparisons are pure hyperbole relative to reality.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #5114
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Ah, he does not live up to the phrase. In that case your sensitivity is indeed well justified.

I think the issue may revolve around "Our". After all, a number of bills, C-11 and C-30 in particular, were clearly written for the government by outside interests. These bills being virtually identical to bills originally put forth under the Liberal Banner, makes denial of outside influence quite implausible. It is hard not to conclude that in the mind of this Government, corporate and power buds take precedence over the interests of Canadians. So I will give you that "Our" does not really apply to the PM.

If you also wish to claim that he falls short of being "Glorious" and/or a "Leader", I will happily defer to your professed superior knowledge of the Canadian Parliamentary System.
Your break down of the term OGL into the meaning of its individual words is completely moot as we all know who the term was originally being applied to and it is being applied to the PM as a means of derision. No different than if someone referred to him as Mein Führer... we all know what is being said so there is no need to play the little word games.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:31 PM   #5115
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I imagine that Elections Canada will not be able to say one way or the other as the Conservative CIMS database has had data deleted.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #5116
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It was expressly stated that members should hold other members to the standards of the EhMac community.
Last I checked, ehMax stated he disliked the use of nicknames for politicians but I don't recall him disallowing their use.

When it comes down to the battle of disrespect versus censorship. I'll choose disrespect any day.

Seems as though this is simply becoming the platform of a group of individuals who don't want their team mocked. The level of discourse isn't going to improve around here with the added feature of censorship.

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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:52 PM   #5117
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+1 The fact is he is borrowing the name applied by the people of North Korea to their dictator, thus it is highly derogatory and completely misplaced as our Prime Minister is duly elected and has to run for election in a democracy. To make such a comparison is ridiculous in the extreme based only on ones objections to the policies and actions of the PM.
Which North Korean dictator had the title of Our Glorious Leader?
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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #5118
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Last I checked, ehMax stated he disliked the use of nicknames for politicians but I don't recall him disallowing their use.

When it comes down to the battle of disrespect versus censorship. I'll choose disrespect any day.

Seems as though this is simply becoming the platform of a group of individuals who don't want their team mocked. The level of discourse isn't going to improve around here with the added feature of censorship.

Play within the written guidelines. Let the mods be the mods. Live and let live.
That's right. The management respectfully requested that these terms not be used. It's within the written guidelines rights to ignore the mayor's request. This is why I will not report these posts to the Mods, and I will continue to remind people of community standards.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:05 PM   #5119
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Which North Korean dictator had the title of Our Glorious Leader?
He didn't have the title of OGL he was referred to by the people of North Korea as such which is what I said and I find your feigning ignorance in this regard rather amusing.

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He didn't have the title of OGL he was referred to by the people of North Korea as such which is what I said and I find your feigning ignorance in this regard rather amusing.

I believe that leader was known as "Dear Leader" "Our Father" or "The General"

Is there any proof he was called "Our Glorious Leader" or is this a "you can trust me on this" kind of matter?
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