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Old Apr 29th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #5081
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The PMO was fully aware. Woodworth announced in December of last year that he was considering submitting the PMM in 2012.
It still does not change the fact that PMO does not vet PMBs or PMMs... nor should it.
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Old Apr 29th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #5082
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He did not promise to muzzle all private members. And it IS an issue where a difference of opinion is natural.

Turner was consistently attacking Conservative policies. No reason to support your enemies. Guergis, in essence because of what she was accused of at the time.
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Old Apr 29th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #5083
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I am simply suggesting that if the PM really wanted to keep his election promise he would expel those members who blatantly & rigorously disregard the promise he and the Party made. I am saying that if the PM expects people to accept him at his word then he exhibit an once of integrity on the matter.
Since this does not constitute a breaking of the PM's promise, expelling the member is a wildly inappropriate gesture.
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Old Apr 30th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #5084
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For those of you wondering how King Harpo managed to rack up such big deficits. Please read the entire article as info is not concisely summarized in a way that is easily quoted.

Canadian banks got $114B 'bailout' during recession - Business - CBC News

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It says support for Canadian banks from various agencies reached $114 billion at its peak. That works out to $3,400 for every man, woman and child in Canada, and also to seven per cent of Canada's gross domestic product in 2009.

The figure is also 10 times the size of the amount Canadian taxpayers spent on the auto industry in 2009.

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Old Apr 30th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #5085
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I do try to give credit where it's due. I think Baird putting this looney idea on hold is probably the right thing to do.

Back door discount pedaling is not the best way to go here.
Baird orders stop to sale of valuable federal art, including Rioppelle, Kurelek - Yahoo! News Canada
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Old Apr 30th, 2012, 12:50 PM   #5086
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For those of you wondering how King Harpo managed to rack up such big deficits. Please read the entire article as info is not concisely summarized in a way that is easily quoted.

Canadian banks got $114B 'bailout' during recession - Business - CBC News
Is this the deal where CMHC took over a portfolio of mortgages from the banks in exchange for cash?

If so, that was a simple swap to increase bank liquidity. CMHC still owns the mortgages and collects interest on the loans, which is paid to the people of Canada.
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Old Apr 30th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #5087
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Is this the deal where CMHC took over a portfolio of mortgages from the banks in exchange for cash?

If so, that was a simple swap to increase bank liquidity. CMHC still owns the mortgages and collects interest on the loans, which is paid to the people of Canada.
As I said more to it than that. Read the entire article.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #5088
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I'm not putting this in the why the disrespect thread but it is AMPLE evidence of why Harper is in the 20% and failling.

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Published Friday, May. 04, 2012 3:47PM EDT

Stephen Harper has celebrated the first anniversary of his majority by reminding Canadians of the moral tone he offers his country.

A week ago, Mr. Harper announced Canada would examine “all options” as the 2014 deadline for pulling our troops out of Afghanistan approached. Since Parliament had voted unanimously for that deadline and for no other options, NDP Leader Tom Mulcair asked the Prime Minister when Canadian troops would actually be brought home.

Instead of responding to a reasonable question, Mr. Harper chose to play what an Ottawa Citizen reporter called “the Hitler card” (also handy in describing the menace of tax increases on the rich, as we saw last week). “Unlike the NDP,” the Prime Minister stated, “we are not going to ideologically have a position regardless of circumstances. The leader of the NDP, in 1939, did not even want to support war against Hitler.”

This was a rather brazen gambit from the ideologue who, as opposition leader in 2003, vociferously demanded the Chrétien government back George Bush's war against Iraq. The Prime Minister’s strange tactic also brought back memories of him smearing Jack Layton for advocating negotiations with the Taliban, a position soon adopted almost everywhere. “Taliban Jack” was low enough. Hitler takes us to new depths.
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Once upon a time, Canadians could be proud of Parliament - The Globe and Mail

To have Harper supporters angling for "respect" under these circumstances is the height of hypocrisy.

Not mention the unfolding Robo-calls....

‘Pierre Poutine’ launched robo-calls from computer used by Tory campaign - The Globe and Mail
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It is with much sadness as I view OGL ignoring the conventions of responsible governing.

His Minion of Environment accusing environmental organizations of money laundering. The now infamous Vic Towes, Public Safety Minion, declaration of "you stand with us or with the child pornographers."

Sure Petey MacKay, Christian Paradise and Bev Oda mis-steps provide comic relief.

However this government is starting to look very old and very tired already.
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In what form did the NDP not support war against Hitler?
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