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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:27 PM   #4981
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As partisan as The Centre for Policy Alterrnatives. What's your point?
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While the federal government and pro-oil lobbyists have taken aim at environmental charities for allegedly violating the Canadian Revenue Agency’s legal limits for “political activity”, the Fraser Institute and its charitable status remain unquestioned. And as the Koch Foundation’s tax data shows, they’ve received a significant amount of “foreign funding” to help influence Canadian policy—which is precisely what environmental groups have been accused of doing.
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #4982
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Yes, I see them on placards when these people protest outside of medical facilities.
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Do you see such things here in Canada?
Yes, I also see them on placards of people protesting. Drove by such a group a couple of weeks ago.

And when I went to school in KW, I saw them very frequently, though that was a while ago.

I remember that in our university papers we would have advertisements for the "Pregnancy Crisis Centre". Sounds like a great place to go if you were a university student who got unexpectedly knocked up and needed some help figuring out what to do about it, but what they didn't tell you (though you could find this out if you did some digging into it) was that they were a pro-life organization. Deceptive, IMO.

So perhaps it's not so surprising that this came out of KW....
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #4983
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screature, where are you going with this? It's great that you point out the procedural rules. It's great that you think that if any of this turns into legislation the current government is doomed.

Bottom line - there's a solid constituency of Canadians, myself included, who are concerned with why this is even being discussed.

Where are you on the issue?
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #4984
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Bottom line - there's a solid constituency of Canadians, myself included, who are concerned with why this is even being discussed.
Why would you expect this would never be discussed again? Did you think that all these matters are permanently settled?
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #4985
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:51 PM   #4986
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Why would you expect this would never be discussed again? Did you think that all these matters are permanently settled?
No, not at all, not when a minority elected majority with a significant social conservative base gets elected.
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 01:57 PM   #4987
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Yes, I also see them on placards of people protesting. Drove by such a group a couple of weeks ago.

And when I went to school in KW, I saw them very frequently, though that was a while ago.

I remember that in our university papers we would have advertisements for the "Pregnancy Crisis Centre". Sounds like a great place to go if you were a university student who got unexpectedly knocked up and needed some help figuring out what to do about it, but what they didn't tell you (though you could find this out if you did some digging into it) was that they were a pro-life organization. Deceptive, IMO.

So perhaps it's not so surprising that this came out of KW....
This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who became pregnant during her university years. She went through a period of denial and then counselling from such a group and she brought the child into the world and put her/him up for adoption. She lived with a phobia, when I knew her, that the child would find her years later. There is nothing pleasant either way.
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #4988
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This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who became pregnant during her university years. She went through a period of denial and then counselling from such a group and she brought the child into the world and put her/him up for adoption. She lived with a phobia, when I knew her, that the child would find her years later. There is nothing pleasant either way.
Good on your girlfriend!
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #4989
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i) what medical evidence exists to demonstrate that a child is or is not a human being before the moment of complete birth, (ii) is the preponderance of medical evidence consistent with the declaration in Subsection 223(1) that a child is only a human being at the moment of complete birth, (iii) what are the legal impact and consequences of Subsection 223(1) on the fundamental human rights of a child before the moment of complete birth, (iv) what are the options available to Parliament in the exercise of its legislative authority in accordance with the Constitution and decisions of the Supreme Court to affirm, amend, or replace Subsection 223(1).

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Seems you're dodging answering the question. Parliament will only be be voting to form a committee not on the definition as your statement seemed to indicate.
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screature, where are you going with this? It's great that you point out the procedural rules. It's great that you think that if any of this turns into legislation the current government is doomed.

Bottom line - there's a solid constituency of Canadians, myself included, who are concerned with why this is even being discussed.

Where are you on the issue?
I have no problem with discussing any issue, it is called democracy.

I think a woman has the right to choose and abortion is a matter between a woman and her doctor.

I also think that with all we know there is no doubt that a fetus is a human being.
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