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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #4831
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As a Green Party member I can confidently say that there is little chance of any amalgamation with any party. Pre-2008/9 the Green's polled in the 10% plus range. With the flattening economy the electorate abandoned the Greens mainly for the NDP.

What is interesting is the number of red-Tory types that belong to the Greens. The Greens are, believe it or not, internally driven by a fiscally conservative doctrine. It really wouldn't mix well with the NDP or the Liberals. And with Harper about to gut environmental protection laws, there is a strong dislike of the CONS.

I strongly believe that a time of reckoning is coming for homo sapiens' arrogance against the ecosphere.
Interesting the message track of Conservatives (especially the Red variant) Governments are fiscally responsible but in truth are not. The message track of the ND Party Governments are not fiscally responsible and in fact are good managers always amazes me.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #4832
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The Liberals have lived through an internal war for over 30 years now. The progressive wing of the party has been at loggerheads to control the Bay street financial mandarins. Trudeau and Chretien had the Bay street types controlled to a fair degree. Turner and Martin favoured Bay street rule of the party. Iggy was hired by Bay street.

Contrast this with the present CON party where the oil patch and CON elements of Bay street are all for outright rape and pillage of Canada's resources.

The Libs have a great opportunity to displace Mr. Apps and his ilk. Failure to do so will result in more of the same industrial policy where we are hewers of wood and drawers of water.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 03:12 PM   #4833
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Thank goodness the "progressives" and their regressive policies have been foiled. We always need to be on watch for this group should it rear its ugly head.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 03:23 PM   #4834
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Thank goodness the "progressives" and their regressive policies have been foiled. We always need to be on watch for this group should it rear its ugly head.
Yes, heaven forbid that our economy should be managed sustainably, or with the interests of Canadians, rather than multinational corporations in mind.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #4835
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Yes, heaven forbid that our economy should be managed sustainably, or with the interests of Canadians, rather than multinational corporations in mind.
No, heaven forbid that it should be managed in the interests of creating a large and privileged bureaucratic class, and establish the doctrine of trickle-up poverty.

In about 50 years, progressives might have a shot at government, and you may have to eat your words.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #4836
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Yes, heaven forbid that our economy should be managed sustainably, or with the interests of Canadians, rather than multinational corporations in mind.
Precisely. The Ayn Randites need to be managed very carefully. They certainly did a great job in the US. The danger is there are several of them in the Harper govt. None have any real power but beware.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #4837
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Yes, heaven forbid that our economy should be managed sustainably, or with the interests of Canadians, rather than multinational corporations in mind.
I don't think the concept of having the citizens of Canada's best interests has really dawned on supporters. The playing of the jobs/economy fear card works wonders on them.
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Fracking causes earthquakes, studies confirm - Technology & Science - CBC News

I wonder how long this took to figure out. Earthquakes? Flammable drinking water?

Hey! We have some jobs!
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 05:03 PM   #4839
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I don't think the concept of having the citizens of Canada's best interests has really dawned on supporters. The playing of the jobs/economy fear card works wonders on them.
That's right. We just need to redistribute what's left after economic activity goes elsewhere and there will be plenty for all.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #4840
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Fracking causes earthquakes, studies confirm - Technology & Science - CBC News

I wonder how long this took to figure out. Earthquakes? Flammable drinking water?

Hey! We have some jobs!
Old news. Fracking may cause small tremors and as the report suggests, temporarily ceasing fracking activity where such tremors occur until the earth settles will deal with the problem.

Lucky Ontario--it has almost no oil or gas shale worth mining. As someone recently suggested, Mother Nature must hate Ontario, because the shale stops right at its borders.
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