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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:20 PM   #4561
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ridiculous analogy.

A more accurate one would be to expect the printer to print the pages, and also, bind the books.
No, an apt analogy. There's a world of difference between producing synthetic crude and producing gasoline. Your analogy represents a situation that already exists-many printers are already bookbinders and buying bookbinding equipment won't sink the printing business.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:28 PM   #4562
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No, an apt analogy. There's a world of difference between producing synthetic crude and producing gasoline. Your analogy represents a situation that already exists-many printers are already bookbinders and buying bookbinding equipment won't sink the printing business.
more brainless ideas.

There are far, far more differences between someone who is a writer, and the printing industry, than there are between crude oil and refining. That's supremely nuts.

No, the analogy between printing and binding is perfect. There are lots of companies who specialize in either and not both. In my earlier days I ran a print shop and we didn't have the binding capabilities beyond simplistic ones so I sent it out all the time. We often didn't get jobs because the winning bid had it all in house.

Nice try though.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:32 PM   #4563
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Yes, and I also frequently awarded contracts to print shops that had binding in-house because they had the best price.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:34 PM   #4564
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Yes, and I also frequently awarded contracts to print shops that had binding in-house because they had the best price.
exactly.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:34 PM   #4565
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To be fair the reason King Harpo believes OAS is not sustainable is that he would prefer to spend the money on military misadventures in Syria, Iran, Pakistan and whatever other conflict Israel can sucker Canada to join in. Oh he has to have some way to pay for those F-35s quadrupling in cost.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:38 PM   #4566
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To be fair the reason King Harpo believes OAS is not sustainable is that he would prefer to spend the money on military misadventures in Syria, Iran, Pakistan and whatever other conflict Israel can sucker Canada to join in. Oh he has to have some way to pay for those F-35s quadrupling in cost.
it's really about fooling the population into supporting the lessening of the tax burden on the very rich and the corporations, and letting the middle and lower middle classes shoulder the burden more.

People line up for this.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 12:59 PM   #4567
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I guess refining our own oil is just not something Canadians can do?
The BS spouted by anti-environmentalists.

Saint John NB was scheduled to be the "Energy Hub" of the north-east.

Saint John NB has the largest oil refinery in North America, it has a state of the art Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) terminal and was slated to have a second, large, modern oil refinery until the world economic down turn in 2008. The plans went to pooh because of financing (or more correctly the lack thereof,) not for want of approval. The refinery was approved and set to be built.

The BS, that you aren't allowed to build oil refineries in North America anymore, is just that BS. The speculators in New York are just fine with limited supplies, so as, to jack up the prices at the pumps, for their profits.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 01:06 PM   #4568
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it's really about fooling the population into supporting the lessening of the tax burden on the very rich and the corporations, and letting the middle and lower middle classes shoulder the burden more.

People line up for this.
More to the point, take away from those with the least means and the least likely to fight back, to pay for the more entitled, that usually vote for Cons.

The Cons picked out the jets first, wrote the specs next, now where to get the % of GDP to pay for the beasties.
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Old Mar 31st, 2012, 01:09 PM   #4569
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They are running at full capacity in the Maritimes right now with their own local supplies of conventional sweet crude. You'd be asking them to expand capacity to refine oil that's more expensive than what they are getting locally and also asking them to switch technology to refine synthetic crude. As oil production from Newfoundland and Labrador ramps up, I doubt you'd get any takers.
not just the maritimes, i mean ontario & quebec also.

it makes sense for canada across the board. ship crude east and as each province refines it they can also supply the province as well as ship the excess to eastern ports for export.

that way the entire country benefits and we don't have to try and ship oil out of pacific ports that oil tankers have no business trying to navigate.

i'm not the first one to float the idea. others have as well.
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not just the maritimes, i mean ontario & quebec also.

it makes sense for canada across the board. ship crude east and as each province refines it they can also supply the province as well as ship the excess to eastern ports for export.

that way the entire country benefits and we don't have to try and ship oil out of pacific ports that oil tankers have no business trying to navigate.

i'm not the first one to float the idea. others have as well.
We don't even have to ship crude east. The Hibernia field is a couple of hundred kilometers away from the Come By Chance Oil refinery. The crude is brought there, refined there ................. and then sent to the US.
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