When abortion is illegal, unavailable, or otherwise difficult to obtain, women still get abortions that are unsafe and often lead to their death.
What's an acceptable number of those deaths to you?
I personally don't think its acceptable that any female be snuffed out in the first trimester of life or the 60th. I just don't think taking the life of their unborn child is the solution. The ends don't justify the means.
Are you content with abortion for any reason at any time? A vagina is considered a birth defect in many cultures and many of those cultures call this country home. Are you OK with that choice? Surely you must have some point where you think abortion isn't justified or moral?
Arguments for abortion without limits make about as much sense as claiming it must be legal to shoot the paper boy on your doorstep in order to protect the right to shoot the home intruder since both have trespassed on your property.
I personally don't think its acceptable that any female be snuffed out in the first trimester of life or the 60th. I just don't think taking the life of their unborn child is the solution. The ends don't justify the means.
Are you content with abortion for any reason at any time? A vagina is considered a birth defect in many cultures and many of those cultures call this country home. Are you OK with that choice? Surely you must have some point where you think abortion isn't justified or moral?
Arguments for abortion without limits make about as much sense as claiming it must be legal to shoot the paper boy on your doorstep in order to protect the right to shoot the home intruder since both have trespassed on your property.
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MacGuiver
nice way to skirt the question, completely ignore the point brought up, and return to being completely dishonest.
Once again, this is why people who spout this are not taken seriously in a real discussion. When you can stop with the dishonesty, then perhaps anti abortionists could be taken seriously without suspicion.
One has to wonder why someone skirts over the real issues, and frames things in a dishonest way.
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Perhaps the abortion issue should poison the well of another thread. The Religious Thread perhaps? That way at least we can keep it from mingling with affairs of the state.
nice way to skirt the question, completely ignore the point brought up, and return to being completely dishonest.
Once again, this is why people who spout this are not taken seriously in a real discussion. When you can stop with the dishonesty, then perhaps anti abortionists could be taken seriously without suspicion.
One has to wonder why someone skirts over the real issues, and frames things in a dishonest way.
You're absolutely right Groove. Good advice. It is pointless to discuss this issue with you further since you've aptly demonstrated your ability to do just what you criticize above.
it's like the energizer bunny. Keep spinning facts dishonestly and ignore clear questions.
Rinse and repeat. Sums up the anti abortionists pretty much right there, and why they're rarely taken seriously. And yes, let's see the issue moved to the religious thread.
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it's like the energizer bunny. Keep spinning facts dishonestly and ignore clear questions.
Rinse and repeat. Sums up the anti abortionists pretty much right there, and why they're rarely taken seriously. And yes, let's see the issue moved to the religious thread.
I tire of your constant calling down and claiming a person is dishonest. He is honestly stating his opinion, no less, no more. Either discuss the merits of one or the other or just drop it. Your holier than thou attitude on the issue is as sickening as those who totally oppose abortion.
there was nothing honest, about stating that we are "killing 800 babies".
I tire of anyone, who would defend a liar.
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Liars exist on both sides. Care to give the exact details of those 800 babies deaths? Do you personally know the circumstances? Some would say if you don't, you could be called a liar.
Liars exist on both sides. Care to give the exact details of those 800 babies deaths? Do you personally know the circumstances? Some would say if you don't, you could be called a liar.
READ THE INFORMATION POSTED.
Sinc, allow me to speak slowly.
He stated that all late term abortions were "killing 800 babies". This is not true. When the if anyone whats to find the facts (in fact I posted a link to some) the majority of late term abortions are for medical reasons, including grave risk to the mother amongst others.
To turn around and state something not true, knowingly, is a LIE.
In case you are further confused here. Feel free to research it further if you dislike the link.
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Late-term Abortion in Canada
Many anti-choice and misinformed individuals would have Canadians believe that a woman in Canada can access abortion services at any point during the nine months of pregnancy. This belief is hugely inaccurate and serves only to appeal to the emotional response of people in trying to prevent the acceptance of abortion as a critical reproductive health service. In Canada, a woman cannot have an elective abortion past 24 weeks gestation. There are simply no doctors and no facilities that will allow for an elective termination at that point. In fact, there are only a few doctors in the entire country who are willing to perform abortions past 20 weeks. As there are different methods of abortion, each woman’s pregnancy is individually assessed by a doctor to help decide which method is safest and best for her. However, since abortion services after 20 weeks are not easily available in Canada, many women who seek an abortion at this point must either travel to another province or to the United States, or must continue to carry the pregnancy to term.
Despite what some may believe about the availability of late-term abortion services in Canada, Statistics Canada has reported that less than 1% of abortions take place past 20 weeks gestation.[1] The fact remains that nearly 90% of abortions in Canada take place before 13 weeks gestation. The belief that a woman makes the choice to have an abortion easily and without giving it much thought is especially inaccurate in instances of late-term abortion. Many women who have an abortion after 20 weeks originally wanted to have a child, but chose to have an abortion after discovering that her foetus was severely or fatally impaired, or upon the discovery that her own health or life is endangered. Other women need to access abortion services past 20 weeks because of extremely long wait-times or, especially in the case of young teenagers, because they were either not aware that they were pregnant or were in denial about being pregnant until the symptoms were no longer unavoidable. Whatever the reason a woman seeks to have an abortion past 20 weeks gestation, Canadians must know: abortion services in Canada are not uniformly accessible and late-term abortions are much more rare and difficult to access than abortions that take place within the first trimester of pregnancy.
For someone so concerned about abortion, you would think they would have a little more information and can answer simple questions. But all we get, are emotional crap and LIES.
Spare me.
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