I've heard the apple guys complain well apple makes more profit. Whatever. Because they were originally boasting higher numbers and marketshare which is what I'm talking about really.
Apple-watchers* have been claiming that "profits matter more than gross market share" for a long time now. It's the logical conclusion from an observation about Macs and all other PCs: Macs are only a small % of all PCs sold, but they are a very significant and growing proportion of the computers consumers buy for themselves, and Apple captures an outsized share of the industry's profits because it doesn't crank out millions of low-end/low-margin boxes for general business use.
If you're Apple (or a shareholder), profits have to matter more than unit share as long as you have enough users to keep the platform attractive to developers. In other words, the Mac may be a niche, but it's a big enough niche to have a critical mass of users worth developing for (i.e. ones who spend money on software and content). I see no reason why the very same thing won't apply to iOS in the long run.
As for where RIM stands in all this... I really have no idea how it's going to play out, but my guess is that there's plenty of room for RIM to be a successful niche player without putting much of a dent in Apple's business. Even if they iron out the bugs and get some compelling software out quickly, I just don't see consumers flocking to the PlayBook, but that's not necessarily a failure for RIM.
* Or fanboys if you insist, whatever -- though I gotta say the f-word is not conducive to civilized discussion.
there is a difference. There apple fans, or users, and then, there are fanbois.
In general apple users are pretty balanced and understand. The few fanbois are the ones that are literally walking apple ads, and can't be reasoned with whatsoever. I wouldn't call debating them civilized discussion in the first place.
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there is a difference. There apple fans, or users, and then, there are fanbois.
In general apple users are pretty balanced and understand. The few fanbois are the ones that are literally walking apple ads, and can't be reasoned with whatsoever. I wouldn't call debating them civilized discussion in the first place.
Yeah, well, I've been through the lovely experience of having my sincere, reasoned disagreement branded as blind Apple worship, and it's a great big fail as a debating tactic.
Yeah, well, I've been through the lovely experience of having my sincere, reasoned disagreement branded as blind Apple worship, and it's a great big fail as a debating tactic.
it certainly is, as just about everytime I set the record straight on things, I'm called an adobe shill, apple hater, blah blah, and usually end up defending why I've argued what I have.
As I said, there are those that spout misinformation excitedly boasting about their company, and those who have a balanced view of things.
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it certainly is, as just about everytime I set the record straight on things, I'm called an adobe shill, apple hater, blah blah, and usually end up defending why I've argued what I have.
As I said, there are those that spout misinformation excitedly boasting about their company, and those who have a balanced view of things.
LOL, so your way of thinking is the right way of thinking?
LOL, so your way of thinking is the right way of thinking?
-my- way of thinking?
You'll have to explain that one I'm afraid.
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it certainly is, as just about everytime I set the record straight on things, I'm called an adobe shill, apple hater, blah blah, and usually end up defending why I've argued what I have.
As I said, there are those that spout misinformation excitedly boasting about their company, and those who have a balanced view of things.
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-my- way of thinking?
You'll have to explain that one I'm afraid.
If someone says something you didn't agree with it's misinformation vs your spouts are balanced.
it certainly is, as just about everytime I set the record straight on things, I'm called an adobe shill, apple hater, blah blah, and usually end up defending why I've argued what I have.
As I said, there are those that spout misinformation excitedly boasting about their company, and those who have a balanced view of things.
Yup, those insults are just as bad. We can add "fandroid" to the list, too.
They're ad hominem attacks, usually the sign of a weak argument.
So even when someone's argument isn't a weak one, when they start to trot out those kinds of insults they only make themselves look just as blinkered, dogmatic and weak as their opponent. It's why platform wars have always been so tiresome.
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